I’m helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because “Linux can’t play games” despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can’t even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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      In my experience, installation of Win or Lin has been pretty easy. Lin has less options to opt out of (I like) than windows, but windows set everything up just fine. The only time I ever had issues on either is if I try to install without an active ether net connected. If I don’t have the os update during install, I run into random driver issues on either os.

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    People have trouble installing Windows? You enter a license key and click next a couple times.

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      Try doing it on a b650 motherboard that’s so new the windows installer doesn’t even have the correct ahci drivers

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        I bought a Ryzen 7 7800X3D and an Asrock X670E, I was upgrading and just transferred my Windows install but still… No issues.

        I’m no huge fan of Windows, but it sounds like you had (No offense) PEBKAC errors.

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          I’m no huge fan of Windows, but it sounds like you had (No offense) PEBKAC errors.

          I think so too and no offense meant to OP as well.

          I am an early adopter of all things tech and so I had a Gigabyte Xtreme X670E mobo on pretty much day 1 to go with a 7950X. Everything worked fine on both Windows 11 and Linux despite being a pimped-up mobo and brand new CPU. At this much later date, OP’s B650 mobo should be working without a hitch, especially with Windows (and almost certainly with Linux as well).

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      Nah you have to spend at least an hour researching how to not create an account (spoiler: ther is no option, you just have to not connect it to the internet)

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    Every time I have to use Windows I am amazed how Microsoft is ruinning it. Ads, unconsisitent UI, bad UX forcing you to be part of their Microsoft365 services shit.

    A friend of mine had his Desktop sync on a OneDrive account without really knowing why. And sometime the whole shit got desynchronized and it’s files and folders disapeard. The fix was to restart his machine while being connected to the internet :D

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    I cant tell if people in this thread are trolls, ultra elite linux shills, or just people incapable of following simple instructions…

    Like I get it, windows bad or w/e… But to act like it takes longer than an hour or two to install it, let alone 2 whole fucking days is just asinine.

    Imagine having enough of a skill issue that it takes you 2 days to install Windows OS. The OS that idiot proofs itself by literally holding your hand on every option and walks you through itself to install.

    Im not even joking, I re-install and have installed windows the past few years multiple times on personal devices for myself and my family and friends and even do it for professional devices and servers for my job. It is brain dead easy, enough that my tech illiterate grandparents managed to re-install it before I could make the drive to meet them and do it for them… I can’t take this OP or anyone else seriously if they can manage to install a linux based OS but somehow have 2 days worth of trouble with Windows OS…

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    I have gotten so used to not dealing with windows that on the rare occasion when I do go back I find that I have to check my anger and aggression while doing so.

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    I have a Windows partition on my workstation. It serves really two purposes, some manufacturers issue firmware upgrades that you can only install from Windows and games. Recently that partition got scribbled and I had to re-install. The most recent Windows ISO would NOT install for me from a USB, I HAD to burn a double sided DVD to get it to install. Then within two weeks of installation it runs into an update that keeps failing. Gotta fucking love it. And this is Win10, I am not ever upgrading to Win11.

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    As someone who helped friends/family build PC gaming rigs multiple times last year (2023) I understand what you’re coming from W11 installer is pure dogshit.

    Tbh tho, my dad always hated new Windows versions because he didn’t want to learn a new UI/UX, which I fine, but the windows experience isnt that hard to learn, even if it is different. Same thing with Linux, if you use GNOME/KDE/i3/hyprland/sway/<insert any DE/WM here> for the first time it won’t be easy to find all of the settings either.

    But the W11 installer in particular sucks ass. There is so many restrictions that try to prevent you from even installing it. The one rescue for me was downloading the Rufus USB ISO tool and letting it download the W11 installer itself and apply patches which removed all the ridiculous restrictions.

    I mean, you can even rub that shit in Virtual box if you want. My GF is literally running it on “unsupported hardware” according to Microsoft but windows updates and everything post-install is completely functional.

    Only reason Mictorsoft Philips wants the restrictions is to have a tighter grip on the ecosystem and limit end consumers from installing it themselves and pushing that part to other companies or retailers which they can buy finished products (laptops etc) from instead of licenses.

  • Windows and Apple both capitalize on most folks lack of minimal tech savviness plus being creatures of habit. So much so, Apple gave away laptops to numerous Silicon Valley highschool classes in the mid 2000’s, just to entrench them into the system.

    I’ve been using Linux for a few years now and I still randomly think about what took me this long to switch. It’s how an OS should be made. It can simply be installed and used out the gate or it can be tinkered with to make an ideal setup. Not to mention the lack of invasive tracking. Windows is so bad it’s more complete monitoring of the users than tracking.

    Regardless, August 2023 to August 2024 will definitely be the year of the Linux desktop! /s