• Leaflet@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 months ago

    Overall, I don’t think Mozilla is wrong. Without the Google Search deal, Firefox will have less resources to build a competent browser.

    But Mozilla has also done a poor job at becoming financially stable without this search deal. It also doesn’t help that Mozilla’s CEO’s salary keeps going up in spite of the declining market share.

    It would have been nice is Mozilla was able to fill a niche like Proton: building a suite of secure and private services. But instead they’re moving towards advertising.

    • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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      Overall, I don’t think Mozilla is wrong. Without the Google Search deal, Firefox will have less resources to build a competent browser.

      The vast majority of the corporations income does not go to Firefox anyways. Their financial reports are publicly available, everyone can read them.

      I have zero sympathy for the corporation and I hope they go bankrupt and that the devs forking the browser and develop it as a standalone product independent of the Mozilla-owned Firefox.

  • Preston Maness ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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    Mozilla agrees that we need to improve search competition, but the DOJ’s proposed remedies unnecessarily risk harming browser competition instead.

    The only one hurting browser competition is Mozilla. They want to keep sucking at the teat of BigTech. They don’t want to be a non-profit with a focused mission, constrained by recurring and one-off revenues. They want to be an adtech company, bUt wiTH pRivAcY. The judge should absolutely rip the band-aid off. If Mozilla sinks, it sinks.

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      2 months ago

      Got addicted to google monies, hilarious that they could sign with search engine competitors but instead fed the google monopoly even more

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    independent browsers that exist due to agreements with search engines.

    How independent are you if you take money from Google? Don’t take money from Google and then maybe you’ll become independent. But now you’re looking at a kind of second-fresh independence. Maybe if it becomes the first, you will start attracting users instead of only repelling them and slamming doors. Because you got hooked on the needle of Google money and eventually lost all your users.

    They fired a bunch of programmers. I sincerely wish them to go bankrupt and go to McDuck as waiters for 1.5 dollars an hour.

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      Mozilla is independent. All the search deal really is is that Mozilla sets a default option to point to Google’s URL and not another. In exchange, Mozilla gets millions of dollars.

      The reality is that the majority of users would choose Google even if it wasn’t the default. So Mozilla is both providing the most popular option as the default and benefitting from it.

      Anyone who doesn’t trust Google, such as me and presumably you, have the freedom to change the default.

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        Mozilla is independent.

        Firefox fund the development of their browsers mainly through search revenue––they require this revenue to survive

        One company continuing to exist entirely at the whim of their direct competitor seems like the definition of dependency to me. Mozilla’s current business model requires them to function as a de facto subsidiary of Google.

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      Not taking money from Google means Firefox dies. Straight up. There’s absolutely no amount of “focusing on the basics” or cutting executive salaries that would make up the deficit, not even close.

      We all wish that wasn’t the case, me especially. But that’s the reality.

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    2 months ago

    Of course Mozilla kisses the ring. If they cared about staying afloat, they would be on the phone with Startpage or DDG right now.