Israel’s foreign minister has said that an arms embargo on his country would lead to the elimination of the Israeli state and “a second Holocaust”.

Gideon Saar was speaking on Tuesday at an international conference on antisemitism in Jerusalem.

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    23 days ago

    “Does israel have a right to exist?”

    The answer to this is: did nazi Germany have a right to exist?

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      I wonder if we can find a new way of describing the notion of “Israel existing.” It seems opponents believe we mean killing the occupants of Israel or (somehow removing the area entirely) rather than reforging the state itself. It’s not like we don’t want the geographical region to continue existing.

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          Generally I’m not interested in what Israel as the right to become. I would rather “Israel doesn’t have the right to not be Palestine” (phrased better, perhaps?)

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            Israel has to become something. It can’t stay the way it is.

            Allowing it to become Palestine again is just the compromise position.

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              Good point. Still, “not having the right to exist” sounds to me – and more importantly, to those undecided on the issue – like it’s encouraging the destruction of the things that are in Israel, not the entity of Israel itself. Which is obviously not a take that’s likely to attract support.

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                That’s why I say it has a right to become Palestine. It will still exist, sort of, but in a revolutionary new form.

                And Israelis can become Palestinians.

                Assuming they aren’t just settlers that moved there recently to steal land, of course.

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                  What Israel has a right to do is not relevant. America has the right to become part of Canada. Israel remaining as it is is the problem – and more to the point, the problem is that people don’t see that as the problem.

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                  if the world was fair, that tract of land in the middle east would become palestine, jewish immigrants would be allowed to live there and have full citizenship and rights, but a nice chunk of territory would be carved out of central or eastern europe to make “settlerania”.

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    They can all fuck right off. There is so much I’d like to say but I cannot because I will be accused of inciting violence. Funny how Right wing and zionist incitement is allowed on social media, but when anyone left leaning says anything immediate bans. I’m hoping something of biblical proportions happens in Israel. Maybe it will turn into a self fulfilling prophesy, anyway, these are words, I can’t encourage anyone other than any gods out there to rain sulfer and all that. I sympathise with the left wing Jews in Israel, but unfortunately, the genocide continues and this is their governement. Much like Maga now is, like it or not, the face of America, well Genocide is now the face of Israel.

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    Second holocaust?

    Dude, you are committing the second holocaust, so that technically would be the third.

    Having said that, aren’t you kind of the reason why that would happen in the first place? Israel has had more than enough opportunities to make peace with everyone around it a hundred times over and so far all it has done is investing in making sure that shit got worse, like actually funding Hamas so that they could fight Hamas harder.

    You dug your own grave here, I won’t push you in it, but I also won’t cry for you if you decide to jump in it

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      it certainly hurts Jews all over the world - many of whom are also against what is being done to Palestinians.

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      if their mouths are moving, they are lying. In their culture, getting people to believe your lies makes you a genius not a criminal or con man.