• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Actually, that first guy never lived there. That first guy isn’t even a real person. That second guy’s grandparents were in another war on a different continent, so they’re actually just small beans feeling a lot of trauma right now. It is incredibly racist to suggest Second Guy did anything wrong, and if we catch you saying as much then we’ll arrest you and deport you to a prison camp where you’ll be enslaved for the enrichment of some pro-Second Guy aristocrats.

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      5 days ago

      there is no land back. people want a state with equal rights; that’s it. i love how this is always a “concern”: hey i know we genocided you, but what if you retaliate? we can’t have that so the genocide most continue.

      in reality we’ve seen what happens: what happened to the white south africans in south africa? what happened to the slave owners in the united states after emancipation? what happened to them after natives got some of their land and autonomy back?

      nothing. prosperity, even. but at this point i don’t give a shit if it’s not nothing. israelis proved time and again—yes the population too, not just the government—that they’re genocidal maniacs.

      this is exactly the same as being concerned with what would happen to the nazis if germany gave rights back to the jews. imagine asking “what if the jews strike back? no the camps must stay”.

      just as it was right back then to emancipate the jewish people and other minorities no matter what would happen afterwards, so it is for palestinians now. luckily for the rapists and murderers of the world, the oppressed never turn out to be so genocidal once freed.

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          5 days ago

          ok; it’s just been a common rhetoric to justify the continuation of the apartheid if not the genocide outright.

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            5 days ago

            I know. I ‘support’ (for lack of a better term because I have not actually done shit for them) Palestinians. But hamas is another matter and I won’t pretend they are the good guys.

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              Hamas are the product of the Israeli regime. if there was no apartheid there would be no Hamas. also they’re nowhere near as bad as the IOF.

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      The finders keepers rule of colonizers. We stole it, but you wanting it returned is stealing it too! /s

      It’s not up to you or me, or the israeli colonizers as to what happens to Palestine. That should be decided by the palestinian people themselves.