“Taiwan is freedom and democracy.”
“China is authoritarian. (Shows footage of police retaliating against ultra-aggressive Hong Kong rioters or journalists doing reporting on the middle of a busy road or someone’s garden before being ushered away by traffic cops or security)”
Well most of Taiwan is ready to unify, it’s mostly the ruling class propped up by the US opposed to it. With the issues they have created for Taiwanese semiconductor companies there are probably even former loyalists ready to turn tail and run.
It’s really the US - which can only dream of a war across the Pacific now - which wants a military confrontation. Mainland China will become too lucrative for Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea to ignore the more the US financial stranglehold starts to slip & China develops. Peaceful reunification is inevitable and war is merely possible now
I get why government opposing china would, what I dont get is regular people who are serious about this. Sure there is the propagandized herd, but even some smarter people I know seem to have weird sinophobic preconceptions about this. All europeans.
The Euros on here are crazy, over on dbzero Germans are trying to convince me that it was good for their green revolution to destroy their nuclear power, destroy their largest source of fossil fuels, and that evil Russians destroyed their green industrial capacity and made them sanction China’s green industry
Yeah I second that my german friend seems by far most against china, hes quite educated so especially on taiwan he conceded the international law, but idk why german media is so biased on this.
Well what exactly did they lose? (im aware of the repression, but what exactly do you mean) Not to say this is completely legal. The western backed protests did their part, make cpc look bad. But compared to LA for example shooting with rubber of foreign journalists, holding a protester down and repeatedly trampling him with a horse, unmarked ice illegaly detaining brown people. Common argument i read was that these illegals and aliens should not behave like this in MY country. Freedom of speech. Meh I agree western democracy is different.
Why do you keep talking about polls which I did not mention? Did South Korea and Japan get polled after the tariff debacle began, or was there an irreversible breaking of trust with the ruling class of the country that has done everything it can to maintain its position? I’m talking about the cultural and economic crosslinking that is taking place which is breaking the Pacific away from the US
How anyone serious can side with taiwan, other than maybe some nazis, is beyond me.
either that or being very misinformed
US/UK/EU/AU/NZ Media:
“Taiwan is freedom and democracy.”
“China is authoritarian. (Shows footage of police retaliating against ultra-aggressive Hong Kong rioters or journalists doing reporting on the middle of a busy road or someone’s garden before being ushered away by traffic cops or security)”
Done.
I get the propaganda but even some serious people seem to buy these images. They of course dont look to LA, for some pure democracy to compare to.
Well most of Taiwan is ready to unify, it’s mostly the ruling class propped up by the US opposed to it. With the issues they have created for Taiwanese semiconductor companies there are probably even former loyalists ready to turn tail and run.
It’s really the US - which can only dream of a war across the Pacific now - which wants a military confrontation. Mainland China will become too lucrative for Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea to ignore the more the US financial stranglehold starts to slip & China develops. Peaceful reunification is inevitable and war is merely possible now
I get why government opposing china would, what I dont get is regular people who are serious about this. Sure there is the propagandized herd, but even some smarter people I know seem to have weird sinophobic preconceptions about this. All europeans.
regular people from the imperial core want things to stay as they are because the current status quo benefits them more often than not.
The Euros on here are crazy, over on dbzero Germans are trying to convince me that it was good for their green revolution to destroy their nuclear power, destroy their largest source of fossil fuels, and that evil Russians destroyed their green industrial capacity and made them sanction China’s green industry
Yeah I second that my german friend seems by far most against china, hes quite educated so especially on taiwan he conceded the international law, but idk why german media is so biased on this.
they just don’t want a stronger china that challenges the world financial dictatorship whom germany forms part of.
Hong Kong turned out totally fine after that went back to China right? So much freedom of speech and movement over there now.
They’re completely fine lmao, literally just go and visit hong kong and macao.
Now they are no longer ruled by a racist monarchy on the other side of the world. Finally. Death to the gammon empire
Ah you’re still jerking off to those protestors burning people alive are you? Reddit during the heyday of the Hong Kong riots was probably your gig
Well what exactly did they lose? (im aware of the repression, but what exactly do you mean) Not to say this is completely legal. The western backed protests did their part, make cpc look bad. But compared to LA for example shooting with rubber of foreign journalists, holding a protester down and repeatedly trampling him with a horse, unmarked ice illegaly detaining brown people. Common argument i read was that these illegals and aliens should not behave like this in MY country. Freedom of speech. Meh I agree western democracy is different.
Most of Taiwan? /doubt
Back that up with some proof and polls from neutral (non ccp or US) sources
Why do you keep talking about polls which I did not mention? Did South Korea and Japan get polled after the tariff debacle began, or was there an irreversible breaking of trust with the ruling class of the country that has done everything it can to maintain its position? I’m talking about the cultural and economic crosslinking that is taking place which is breaking the Pacific away from the US