Hi there. I m changing away from windows. I already tested some stuff. I started with fedora GNOME. But GNOME wasn’t for me I felt. So I did go with Linux mint cinnamon. That felt better but not as snappy and fast as fedora. Then I did go with fedora KDE plasma and man I like KDE plasma. That’s a thing for me. Then I tried because of recommendations popos with cosmic. I don’t know why but it didn’t felt right. So another recommendation later I tried cachy is with KDE. KDE was good but catchy gave me some erros and problems so back to fedora with KDE.

Now my real question.

  1. Manjaro Linux is a European distro? Only I often see it with popos and Linux mint and fedora that these are good beginner distros? Is it stable? Customisation in KDE is the same everywhere I guess? Does many people use it? Is it really beginner friendly and snappy? Is it stable?
  2. Opensuse also has KDE but it seems that its not a beginner distro. Also online its not often spoken about. Is it harder to use? Or is it beginner friendly? Customisation KDE again. Is it stable or does it break often? Does many people use it.
  3. Fedora, manjaro, opensuse? Which off these with KDE is most beginner friendly and stable. Is used much so I can find help when something is going on. Customisable. Stable?

Or any other Good KDE Distros out there.

  • pogodem0n@lemmy.world
    14·
    12 days ago

    Fedora KDE pretty much offers the best KDE Plasma experience, maybe right after OpenSuse.

    If you are still using Fedora, I recommend sticking with it. It doesn’t get much better than that.

    • hddsx@lemmy.ca
      73·
      12 days ago

      I wouldn’t use Fedora mainly because I object to how IBM/RedHat handled the removal of CentOS and how they hampered RockyLinux from keeping the original CentOS mission going

      I would pick a leaf off the Debian tree

      • pogodem0n@lemmy.world
        83·
        12 days ago

        Fedora is not Red Hat. While they fund Fedora development, they don’t dictate how to it is ran.

        • edel@lemmy.mlEnglish
          8·
          12 days ago

          For those of us that despise Red Hat, sorry, but increasing the user base of Fedora, dramatically helps Red Hat’s marketability and profitability (and IBM’s). These companies not only make decisions bad for the FOSS community but way too happy to do business with a country massacring kids as we speak too. Now, I still recommend using Fedora since, as you say they are not straight IBM and they are at the vanguard, yet, for those with a conscience on these matters, there are as equally comparable offers out there.

        • hddsx@lemmy.ca
          41·
          12 days ago

          Fedora is upstream CentOS Steam which is upstream RHEL. It’s part of RHEL cycle/stream

  • arch@feddit.nl
    4·
    11 days ago

    EndeavourOS KDE Plasma is my favourite! It’s really really considerate and inherits all the arch linux advantage :3

    • emmy67@lemmy.world
      2·
      10 days ago

      I have to second this. It’s been amazing across the board for so much. Lots of documentation to assist with problems and you learn so much.

  • banazir@lemmy.ml
    4·
    12 days ago

    openSUSE and Fedora with Plasma will be fine choices for you, based your post. Tumbleweed will take a bit more work, but usually it’s nothing too difficult. You can also go with Leap, which generally won’t have the same issues Tumbleweed has. I personally use Tumbleweed and like it a lot.

    Fedora is just an all around solid distro, endorsed by Linus Torvalds himself! In my opinion, since you already have some experience with it, stick with Fedora. It’ll be fine.

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
    3·
    10 days ago

    OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is excellent and no less beginner friendly than any other major distro, so I wouldn’t worry. It really is one of the most underrated distros out there.

    Kubuntu could be a good option for you, but I recommend doing the “Minimal” install to avoid Snaps and bloat.

    If you are mostly about gaming and flatpak, then consider Bazzite. You can’t just install packages on Bazzite, so if you need to do things that aren’t already built in then you need to use containers or, as a last resort, create a new layers with rpm-ostree.

    For the record, Arch and it’s offshoots don’t especially resonate with me, either. I want my OS to “just work”, but at the same time I want to have the ability to go wild whenever and however I feel like it.

    I’ve been spending a lot of time with Bazzite lately and I’d wholeheartedly recommend it to most Linux newbies, especially gamers who want their system to “just work.” It’s also a very interesting system for jaded old Linux users because it works so differently than we’re used to. The “everything needs to be a container” paradigm is very interesting and has a lot of security and stability benefits.

    If you want more control and freedom, then OpenSUSE is definitely the best option here. I’d only fallback to Kubuntu if there was some software you need that only ships in .deb and you have no other options. I’m not a fan of Canonical or what they’ve done to the Ubuntu ecosystem.

  • nfms@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    12 days ago

    Lot’s of great answers already. I’ll just had my thoughts and hope it helps.
    Choosing a Linux distro is fucking hard, but the good thing is that you already have a DE (Desktop Environment) that you like, KDE Plasma (KDE is the community, Plasma is the name of the DE) and it’s my favorite.

    1 - Manjaro was my first distro for daily use. I would not recommend it, i don’t think it’s stable enough to get into linux. Would not recommend any Arch based distro.
    2 - OpenSuse is an old distribution, but not beginner friendly, so maybe not a good idea to dip your toes into it.
    3 - Fedora is well established with lots of documentation, a big community and a 6 month update release model that should give you the newest features very fast while still maintaining stability. I don’t recommend the Atomic distros. If you’ve already installed and it works then stick with it for a while.

    There are also the Ubuntu based distros like Kubuntu, KDE Neon or Tuxedo OS. Ubuntu has probably the largest user base, so documentation is abound everywhere regardless of the distro you pick.

    You’re already testing out different distros, try to daily drive for a month and read up on what makes them different. In general it’s how to install software, the release model (“Long Term Support” or “Rolling Release”) and the core system. Apps are installed on top of the system and right now come in a variety of formats. I strongly recommend that you enable Flatpak on the distro you chose and use the Discovery app for software management.

    Edit: Added “Tuxedo OS”

    • Verax@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      12 days ago

      I also thought about Kubuntu and KDE neon. I think I will test these 2 and then decide between these 2 and fedora. After reading all this I don’t think opensuse and mamjaro are for me for now.

  • Eugenia@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    12 days ago

    Linux Mint is actually fast, and uses half the RAM of Fedora (see shots: https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/114/653/604/229/121/661/original/6d60399683784c13.png and https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/114/761/028/826/681/916/original/32f1c276089be277.png ). With a bit of tweaking, and using the Cinnamenu menu instead of the default one, it feels really good. On Fedora KDE I got updates every couple of days to the excess of 1 GB. I’m on 50mbps internet, and that was too much for me.

    • Verax@lemmy.worldOP
      4·
      12 days ago

      Yeah mint cinnamon isn’t bad but I like KDE plasma more. And search a distro that uses that.

  • edel@lemmy.mlEnglish
    31·
    12 days ago

    OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is pretty solid and 98% of the refinement of Fedora, that in my opinion, it is the most polished of them all. Now, using Fedora supports companies like Red Hat/IBM so it is a no-no for me.

    The only thing OpenSUSE has is that is independent so does a few things differently than Debian or Fedora based ones, but after a few retouches that you will learn in no time you will be at the level of Fedora. It is perfectly OK for beginners, just that there are a few things differently, sometimes for the better like many utilities from YAST, but will be different from what you find in most non OpenSUSE forums. Again, is minimal, 95% of the staff is the same. Unfortunately, it does not have the costumer base that Ubuntus/Mint/Fedora has, but the supporters are technically highly committed and competent, they just need to improve in their marketing arena that is what is holding them down.

    Another KDE that I like is TuxedoOS. It works perfectly in non Tuxedo devices and very stable in my experience… I even had better stability experience than Kubuntu, and that says a lot.

    Did not play enough with Manjaro and will try in a few days. It had some bad press but I think is more due to diverging a bit from Arch philosophy of instant updates than anything else. CachyOS I recommend only for latest computers or those willing to adjust things a bit once in a while.

    For older devices, MXLinux KDE is the ideal in integrated graphics chips.

    • Matt@lemmy.ml
      4·
      12 days ago

      using Fedora supports companies like Red Hat/IBM so it is a no-no for me.

      How? You go to their site and download the ISO for free. Of course, there is the disclosure from Red Hat that you can’t use Fedora in a country that is considered an adversary by the US, but lbh, who gives a shit about that?

      • edel@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        12 days ago

        By using Fedora, one helps Red Hat/IBM in different ways:

        • With more usage of Fedora, Linux enthusiasts cater to that distro more and more, and Red hat benefits from all that feedback and large customer base. Fedora gets better and Red Hat stands out over the competition.
        • With larger customer base, Red Hat’s board approve to allocate more resources to the platform, increasing its competitive advantage.
        • With more users of Fedora, Red Hat can find more qualified professionals that grew up using already Fedora, increasing its human capital competitive advantage.

        Customer base, paying or no, is a tremendous competitive advantage… that is why Microsoft winked at piracy across the globe for 2 decades so companies purchased their solutions since millions of users already knew how to use them. Of course, once the competition was out, Microsoft started to hike prices tremendously.

        Of course, the development of Fedora, since it is FOSS, benefits all the community, but it also feeds the monster in the process that, at the moment they want, they pull the rug on the community that, at that stage, won’t have any companies that can take the lead anymore.

        The moral here, if behind Fedora is a company that did bad things for FOSS, that it is owned by a company that contributes with the IDF, and both are based in a country that any day may ban Red hat technology to be distributed to any foreign country of their choosing… why choosing Fedora when plenty of alternatives are equally comparable, more ethical and less prone to manipulation.

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
        2·
        12 days ago

        Oh I missed that, sorry. What errors, specifically? Maybe something I can help troubleshoot?

        Either way, Manjaro (or EndeavorOS) would likely give you very similar issues, so I suppose my vote is still openSUSE.

  • witness_me@lemmy.ml
    2·
    12 days ago

    I’ll give a contrasting opinion.

    I’ve used both Fedora and Manjaro extensively, and I prefer Manjaro.

    The reason is that I prefer the package management of Arch more than fedora. I’ve had no issues finding what I need through the official arch repositories and the AUR (secondary choice).

    Manjaro is a bleeding edge distro so keep that in mind. Personally, I’ve had no problems in the last year of running it.

  • simop_jo@lemmy.world
    2·
    10 days ago

    Dont choose your distro based on looks. For example, of you liked fedora but not gnome, try fedora KDE.

  • RotatingParts@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2·
    12 days ago

    If you install the latest Kubuntu with backports enabled, you can get a newer version of KDE than the one that comes “stock” with Kubuntu. The KDE version isn’t as new as KDE Neons’, but still newish.