This…is not what this project represents or is meant for. Christ.
I can’t count the number of times people gloss over the actual useful tools they are given in the immutable world, and try and distill it down to being about desktop bullshit.
NIX IS FOR REPRODUCIBLE BUILDS. That’s fucking it, seriously. It’s literally on their website.
Stop trying to put a hat on a hat for some random crap you thought was a good idea.
IT’S A HORRIFIC EXPERIENCE FOR NEW USERS TRYING TO RUN A DESKTOP. Steer clear.
Edit: this is some dumb shit
Although we cannot achieve complete system reproducibility, the /home directory, being an important user directory, contains many necessary configuration files
That’s literally all it’s good for… reproducible builds.
Fuck off whoever posted this.
Edit2: oh wait… It’s the boot account that is polluting everything in these threads
Got a lot of use for DE and other gui related modules in that usecase? Are you spinning up KDE to build a container? Did you write to the devs that they remove the installation wizard for desktop use? Did they accidentally add all of the non-reproducible imperative commands to nix?
Get over yourself. It’s a great distro for desktop use, and I seriously don’t get why you’re foaming at the mouth because people are using it differently than you…
No…you CAN install one if you’d like, you waste of space. Just like any other Linux OS, all packages aside from the kernel are optional. Hell, Nix didn’t have anything but the templating setup when I started it using it forever ago. They didn’t have any packages available for any sort of GUI at all.
NIX IS FOR REPRODUCIBLE BUILDS. That’s fucking it, seriously. It’s literally on their website.
This post is specifically about NixOS and friends, though.
IT’S A HORRIFIC EXPERIENCE FOR NEW USERS TRYING TO RUN A DESKTOP. Steer clear.
There are thousands of users who run NixOS on their desktop, and thousands more users of home-manager (or nix-darwin) on macOS. If you are ready to put in the time and learn how it works, it’s wonderful - your entire distribution, the thing through which you interact with computers, becomes just another project in your ~/projects, rather than something you have to manually configure. You can’t forget “how to configure $X”, because it is all recorded in one place and done automatically when you get a new machine or update or whatever. It’s GNU Stow on steroids, for your entire system.
There are a lot of downsides for sure as well (mostly the learning curve, and having to fix the buggy bullshit in some software which only runs well in FHS), but if you are a software developer (or adjacent) and like Linux, NixOS is still awesome.
This…is not what this project represents or is meant for. Christ.
I can’t count the number of times people gloss over the actual useful tools they are given in the immutable world, and try and distill it down to being about desktop bullshit.
NIX IS FOR REPRODUCIBLE BUILDS. That’s fucking it, seriously. It’s literally on their website.
Stop trying to put a hat on a hat for some random crap you thought was a good idea.
IT’S A HORRIFIC EXPERIENCE FOR NEW USERS TRYING TO RUN A DESKTOP. Steer clear.
Edit: this is some dumb shit
That’s literally all it’s good for… reproducible builds.
Fuck off whoever posted this.
Edit2: oh wait… It’s the boot account that is polluting everything in these threads
What do you think nixos is for?
Tell me you didn’t run nixos without telling me you didn’t run nixos
I use it for reproducible builds in packaging and CI/CD pipelines because…that’s what it’s made for.
Got a lot of use for DE and other gui related modules in that usecase? Are you spinning up KDE to build a container? Did you write to the devs that they remove the installation wizard for desktop use? Did they accidentally add all of the non-reproducible imperative commands to nix?
Get over yourself. It’s a great distro for desktop use, and I seriously don’t get why you’re foaming at the mouth because people are using it differently than you…
Lol wut?? No.
No there is no desktop in a packaging, CI, or CD pipelines 🤣🤣🤣
What on earth are you talking about.
But there is in nixos you donkey…
No…you CAN install one if you’d like, you waste of space. Just like any other Linux OS, all packages aside from the kernel are optional. Hell, Nix didn’t have anything but the templating setup when I started it using it forever ago. They didn’t have any packages available for any sort of GUI at all.
Get outta here with your uninformed idiocy.
This post is specifically about NixOS and friends, though.
There are thousands of users who run NixOS on their desktop, and thousands more users of home-manager (or nix-darwin) on macOS. If you are ready to put in the time and learn how it works, it’s wonderful - your entire distribution, the thing through which you interact with computers, becomes just another project in your ~/projects, rather than something you have to manually configure. You can’t forget “how to configure $X”, because it is all recorded in one place and done automatically when you get a new machine or update or whatever. It’s GNU Stow on steroids, for your entire system.
There are a lot of downsides for sure as well (mostly the learning curve, and having to fix the buggy bullshit in some software which only runs well in FHS), but if you are a software developer (or adjacent) and like Linux, NixOS is still awesome.
Same can be said for Arch but people still install it as their first distro.