Will they lobby for laws that prohibit Linux or make it difficult to install? What actions might they take in the future?

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    7 days ago

    All out street warfare against Linux users! They’ll be arming their army with AI laser guided missiles! The backdoored AI drones!

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    10 days ago

    Linux has been becoming a “serious threat” for 20+ years now. I’ll wait.

    Don’t get me wrong I like Linux a lot. But if you step back and look objectively, it has a lot of issues trying to grow outside the hobby/enthusiast community for the desktop.

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      10 days ago

      I think that linux has a couple of things that might help it grow outside its traditional niche that it hasn’t in the past. Proton has been a major step forward in to the gaming scene. A lot of people are very unhappy about windows 11. The EU in particular is also investing in ways to get out from under American techs thumb due to the geopolitical landscape.

      I don’t have too high expectations personally but who knows.

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    10 days ago

    Work with hardware and software vendors to break linux compatibility.

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      10 days ago

      Yes exactly. Embrace and extinguish has always been Microsoft’s strategy. They’ll release their own distribution and either make it slower and more complicated than Windows, so that everyone thinks Windows is the better OS, or they’ll make it a cloud OS like Chrome, requiring recurring payments to use Office 365 and everything else.

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        10 days ago

        I see this as the most likely outcome as well. It’s the preferred route, seen all of the place lately. Want to privatize a public service? Cripple the public service enough to “prove it doesn’t work” to convince people privatization is the best option. I suspect most people would switch to Microsoft Linux over something “tech” sounding like Debian or Ubuntu. When the trial of their slowed down and crashy “Linux” comes to an end, Microsoft will offer an easy solution to switch back to Windows.

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    10 days ago

    Exactly what they’re doing right now. What cable companies did. What every dominant business does when something better starts to eat their lunch.

    Become increasingly abusive and scummy towards the customers who are left, because they’re either too deeply ingrained, spineless or lazy to change and they’ve already self-selected.

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    10 days ago

    pays even more to hardware manufacturers to add windows by default, and make drivers windows only.

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    10 days ago

    Adapt and fight. Linux is the dominant OS for everything, so Windows started to support it (wsl) so they don’t loose developers. Secure boot worked as a moat for a while and the MS monopoly on OS keys is still an obstacle. Linux works better on ARM than Windows, so obviously Qualcom Laptops have a locked down bootloader. They will continue to lock themselfes into the future with money and development resources.

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    10 days ago

    The desktop has been losing market for a while. I feel Windows is already under serious threat (if not already in the minority) when you think about all the devices that mainstream audiences orbit around (phones, tablets, portable consoles, etc), often using the Linux kernel. Only about a third of most website traffic comes from desktops.

    Many of the people who frequently use Windows desktop do so because of their job, and often avoid using it outside of work as much as possible, since it feels like… well, work.

    Microsoft has been desperately trying to appeal to those other bigger sectors of the pie and has failed every time.

    PC Gaming was one sector they had advantage on, yet that has already started to crumble thanks to Valve. I feel that MS will just try to push for integrating their xbox with Windows OS more and more…

    I feel it’s a battle with many fronts, since PCs have many uses… so MS is likely to run their typical spiel: copy what the competition are doing and try to centralize/integrate it with their OS in a way that gives them an advantage, as they are famous for doing.

    Another sector they can do this is with the WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux)… they could turn Windows into a frontend for running Linux apps… so if Linux apps became popular, they could try to advertise Windows as the “best” way to run Linux software without losing the full first party support of legacy Windows software.

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    11 days ago

    M$ is switching to defense and surveillance software. Once they failed to force their crap OS into the phone market, they knew their monopoly days were numbered on the PC. They are hoping to lock in devs on GitHub, but it looks like that might backfire with their overt push for CoPilot use.

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      10 days ago

      How exactly do they hope to lock devs in github??? That’s absurd, there’s no way they can achieve that. I can always take my projects elsewhere and there’s nothing they can do to stop me.

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          10 days ago

          They will, if you change the links and share them with at least your users.

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            10 days ago

            If you already have a dedicated following, but the unfortunate truth is people use github for discoverability. People would need to know to look for you if you did the right thing and hosted your project somewhere where you and it won’t be exploited

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        10 days ago

        How exactly do they hope to lock devs in github??? That’s absurd, there’s no way they can achieve that. I can always take my projects elsewhere and there’s nothing they can do to stop me.

        I can’t tell if you’re joking? If not, what do you think “lock-in” actually means?

        It doesn’t mean that it is impossible to leave, it means that there is substantial switching cost. And, that is certainly the case for github-hosted projects: all active contributors need to make a new account somewhere else, issues and discussions need to be migrated, CI workflows typically need to be rewritten, and good luck finding something that gives as much free compute for CI as github does. Yes, it’s easy to mirror a git repo onto another service, but github is much much more than just git repo hosting and each of their features have their own switching cost.

        Also, OP actually said “lock devs in” rather than “lock projects in” - I actually am forced to have a github account if i want to contribute to projects which refuse to move their issues off of it 😢 … and the difficulty in creating new accounts anonymously these days prevents me from contributing to several things (lemmy, for instance) which i otherwise would.

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          10 days ago

          If not, what do you think “lock-in” actually means?

          That they’ll lock you out of your repo without access to manage it, maybe? Or threaten you to make your software inoperable in Windows, if you don’t comply? IDK, they can always think of sonething but if they think I don’t already have full copies of my projects on my computer, they’re deeply mistaken. 😂

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    9 days ago

    Maybe requiring locking bootloader “for safety” on desktop computers if they want to run windows 12

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    11 days ago

    The question is also what would US government do. You miss the fact that windows-x86 complex is self supporting cornerstone of US soft and economic power, also spying. What will they do to prop up that monopoly?

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    11 days ago

    Desktop users (except for business) don’t make Microsoft any money, so they probably don’t care.

  • slazer2au@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Honestly, ms won’t do anything.

    unofficial statement out of Microsoft have Linux VMs overtaking the Windows VMs in Azure.

    Why should they worry about losing a once off $1100 sale of a Server 2025 license when they can sell you a 2 CPU 8Gb ram Azure VM for $150 a month? Or $113/m commited for 3 years ($4000 total)