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Always remember, when Margarine Taylor-Greene attempted to oust Mike Johnson, it was Hakeem Jeffries and the Democrats who came to his rescue.
The wing doesn’t matter if the eagle is a nazi tbf.
Liberals call this “purity testing,” but fundamentally the democrats stand for perpetuating capitalism and imperialism. These two points of contention are irreconcilable with any leftist.
“purity testing” more like them gaslighting people into believing that they are left wing and getting defensive when they are proved not to be
Bingo.
All I want is the freedom to vote how I want and still count my vote if my first choice didn’t win. Democrats should be free to run their political party how they want. Just like how everyone else should be free to participate in our elections. Free of a spoiler effect.
There should be no monopoly on the future of our nation. Republican, or Democrat.
Surely the freedom to vote how people want is not to high a bar for the democrats to clear right? Self proclaimed democracy advocates surely want the people to be represented fully… right?
I would never force a liberal to vote for my preference in a election, why is it okay for them to do that to me?
And it is a conscious decision to force me to vote a certain way. Every election democrats mercilessly rage at 3rd party voters. The Democratic party and their voters understand that First-past-the-post voting is flawed. Yet in blue states, fully in control of the Democratic party, FPTP voting shackles the people.
Democrats understand FPTP voting does a bad job of representing the nation. They ignore this festering gaping mortal wound… all for safe states and easy elections against a complete clown show. One that has defeated them in every way possible.
The monopoly is over democrats. You never deserved it, and you most certainly do not deserve it now in our darkest hours. Get out of the way, we have to move forward as a nation.
The Democratic party is not more important then the United States of America.
Electoral Reform Videos
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems
The system can’t be reformed to favor the working class because it was created by & for the owner class, the “donor” class. If necessary they will unleash fascism to maintain control.
The Democratic party is not more important then the United States of America.
They both have to go. There’s never going to be a socialist USA. That can only happen after a revolution leading to an different state with a different name.
I think actually a party guilty of genocide should not be free to run in elections, or even free to remain outside of prison
I don’t think chsnging the voting system will fix this. There is still a 2 party system in australia despite a democracy with preferential voting for over 100 years.
Bingo. Class dynamics take priority over voting mechanisms.
Nothing new, in a profoundly capitalist structure like the US, there are no other options than to choose between conservatism and fascism, substituting reason for “in God we trust” and “Stars and Stripes”, to keep citizens ignorant and obedient to continue functioning.
“I am angry the overton window has moved so far to the right, I’m going to blame the folks trying to move it leftward”
What hasn’t happened is an IRL movement around a new party or leader. What has happened is lots of “divide the left” memes and posts. I do wonder who that sentiment serves the most.
Moving it leftward is when you support two separate groups of genocidal fascists in Israel and Ukraine and whine at leftists for not tactically supporting the fascists enough
Divide the left
You are not on the left. But I do keep seeing a bunch of “How do you do, fellow leftists? We sure do love voting for the 𝓵𝓮𝓼𝓼𝓮𝓻 𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓵, amirite? By the way fuck communists” memes and posts. I wonder who that sentiment serves the most?
Left wing starts are anti-capitalism and anti-imperialism. The democrats are complicit in genocide and take money from AIPAC and only care about pleasing their business owners. Also the DNC is a private corporation
The Democratic National Committee is many things but democratic
https://www.drmikekatz.com/the_dnc_and_rnc_are_private_corporations
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/WildingDNC.pdf
Election time already?
Leftists are always anti-DNC and focus on organizing over electoralism, so I don’t see why you think this is related to any election coming up.
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The Whig party died because it failed to address the whig voters’ concerns over slave states. The Whigs in charge were too busy trying to find a moderate choice between traditional whig and democratic policies since the Whigs consisted of both northern and southern slave states and were too spineless to pick a side. Zachary Taylor (W), who had never voted or voiced his political opinion prior to running, won the nomination because whig voters in the convention thought being a middle ground candidate was enough to win. And he did win, but…
After Zachary Taylor was president, Winfield Scott (W), who was running a diet-democratic campaign seeing how it worked with Taylor, was running against Franklin Pierce (D), a dark horse candidate who wasn’t even in the running until the 35th ballot at a stalled democratic convention. Scott, having lost the anti-slavery voters of the northern states, had an enthusiasm issue so big that people of the time regard this is one of the least exciting campaigns in presidential history. After Pierce won the election 254 electoral votes to 42, Free Soil and ex-Whig voters coalesced into the republican party. The whig party had been killed.
If your party isn’t giving what people are pleading for or isn’t a real opposition party, it’s easier killing the party and starting fresh with something better than trying to lure the lost party back to your own values. And if we’re already putting forth all that effort to build up a new party when one dies, why not be cool and make a revolutionary vanguard party instead of filling the vacuum in bourgeois elections?
This is how we ended up with Trump again btw.
Turns out supporting genocide makes you look bad. Someone should’ve told Biden and Copmallah.
It’s almost as if your party doupoly consists of two fascist parties.
Always remember that left and right are difficult terms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left–right_political_spectrum
In Germany Harris would have been conservative CDU (the most conservative/right party before the AfD turned up) and Trump would have been in the AfD. However, CDU is still fine. Nothing bad about being conservative. I disagree with most of their opinions but they are valid political opinions. AfD and Trump share political opinions that are undemocratic, dangerous and stupid.
Sure, Jan.
Always remember that while The Democratic Party is far from perfect, this is Russian propaganda. The party and the rules it has to play by are changed by voting locally, early, and often. Spreading the voter apathy message that both parties are the same and our votes are inconsequential just gives more power to the oppressors.
4 substantive replies and 13 hours later, your only response is “sigh people disagree with me look how put out I am”?
Does your side have literally anything to say for itself?
Substantive? That’s a bit of a stretch. One reply that cites any sources and not a single one would get past a community college level RA.
It is laughable to me that you think we’re on different sides. There are two sides, manipulators and manipulatees, and none of us here are the manipulators, though you may have created an echo chamber to increase the volume of certain manipulations.
‘Sides’ aside, do I have anything to say for myself? Of course. Would the time spent add any value to my life or fulfil any purpose? Maybe, but the ROI is too slim. You can’t reason a person out of an opinion they didn’t reason themselves into. It’s the same reason I don’t waste time arguing with MAGA these days. Even on the off chance you’re talking to a real person, presenting them with any kind of evidence is just going to make them double down on their opinion. That’s just human psychology, The Backfire Effect in action. I made the mistake of not checking where I was before commenting at all. Coming back here to reply to you was probably a mistake in and of itself, but this whole ‘sides’ thing just irks me. I hope you don’t really feel that way. If we both want to move the country to the left, then disagreements like this only serve to benefit those who want to move the country further to the right. There’s this book that outlines exactly how to create these ideological disagreements that drive wedges into opposition to the right, and who it benefits, but for some reason y’all have completely discounted it even though everything written in it has come to pass since. If y’all want to outright reject reality then more power to you, but I don’t have to involve myself.
Pretty much see you as the exact equivalent of a right wing chemtrail person in terms of incoherence and facile beliefs.
Your brain has been severely damaged by Rachael Maddow.
If y’all want to outright reject reality
Fucking crank
I want you to stay this way. Keep being an ignorant little goober. Nobody needs you and you’re not important. You understanding basic political theory is not integral to anything. Please keep on trucking.
Why are you linking to a crypto-fascist’s book? Because you bought the narrative that he’s “Putin’s brain”? 🙄
Always remember that Russiagate was bullshit.
- IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims
- Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
- Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
- Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier
- Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
- Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
- Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
- Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
- MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
- Matt Taibbi: CIA “Cooked The Intelligence” To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016
- Aaron Maté: Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud
- Matt Taibbi: Note on New Trump-Russia Disclosures Thanks to explosive new document releases, the Russiagate hoax is now exposed, commencing a new era that will be about accountability for the guilty
- Matt Taibbi: No Doubt Left: Russiagate Was a Cover-Up
- Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away The cynical con the Democratic Party and the F.B.I. carried out to falsely portray Donald Trump as a puppet of the Kremlin worked, and continues to work, because it is what those who detest Trump want to believe.
A capitalist party being right-wing is basic left/right understanding. Dugin has nothing to do with this.
Pointing out that the Democratic party and their supporters insisted we have to do a genocide is Russian propaganda sweaty
This image is a Slavic ASIAN deepfake, it never happened😤
I don’t see the link with the wikipedia article of that book with a neoliberal US party been right wing.
Their point, I think, is that we’re secret chaos agents sent by Putler to sap and impurify their precious bodily fluids.
