Its always good to try!
How come Linux worked on desktop but on phones it is having such a hard time even tho Android has the linux kernel( i think).
Is PC hardware more open and known to everyone about everything while mobile dosent? And if that is the case then why arent phone opening itself for support?
Because ARM is a fucking mess. Each device has it’s own way of booting. There’s no standard like UEFI or BIOS.
Plus you need propreitary code for modem to support 2G, 3G, 4G…etc. which are complicated to implement.
Would that be a good focus? To get a unified standard for ARM developed to get many devs together to make software/OS’es for it and adapt phones to use those OS’es
Fairphone and samsung are absolutely not the same kind. I want to point fairphone is officially distributing /e/OS which is a niche of 2-3 brands. This company that is nowhere in size close to samsung also engages hardcore in device repairability making its phones be a flagship. If anything just let them be successful and tempt others to follow their lead. I would love graphene os to be better supported but just don’t put all the strain on the one doing good. (I type this from my FP6 /e/OS)
I have a newer Pixel phone and I’m comfortable installing and running custom ROMs from doing so regularly back in the day - for those who’ve daily driven both, what are the reasons I should NOT switch from the stock OS to GrapheneOS?
Samsung, no. Samsung can’t be trusted with anything. That would be like using Tor on Android.
Plus Odin is a pain to work with as you have to rely on leaked tools (Odin3 for Windows and Odin4 for Linux) to do anything official.
Fairphone do work with Ubuntu Touch.
Wait really? Ooo I have to check that out. Thanks!
A Fairphone with GrapheneOS would be the tops
Sure would be the toppiest of tops!
We can encourage them to work together in their official communication channels too!
Would be good for both of them on every level. GrapheneOS learning to make their own phones, and Fairphone learning to make an OS while both being partnered
Edit: Be the change you want to see everybody!! Flood the gates with what we want!
Graphene already has a partnership with Motorola now so the assumption is some time (I’ve seen 2027 speculated) we may get a Graphene Phone from Motorola. Mixed feelings about them partnering with a company like that but we’ll see how it goes. I still keep thinking about finally getting a secondhand pixel 10 so I can switch to Graphene from apple.
I would recommend it. Very worth it overall (As a user of a similar Pixel phone)
What are your use cases?
Fairphone? perhaps. Samsung? hell naw. Samsung heavily benefits from the spyware it builds into One UI and 99% of its user base do not care about the spyware.
But I do hope hope that Fairphone begins to embrace Linux support.Samsung heavily benefits from the spyware it builds into One UI and 99% of its user base do not care about the spyware.
They go out of their way to ensure that it cannot be disabled even if you do care about the spyware and try to uninstall or disable it.
What is the bottleneck holding Fairphone back from supporting Linux fully?
Qualcomm
Both tantalizingly close with respect to GrapheneOS. I wouldn’t expect Samsung to ever support the other two, but their phones are supposed to have every security element GOS expects. Only problem is that Samsung wants to make their own walled-garden ecosystem a la Apple.
I do remember reading somewhere that GrapheneOS are open to someone making a GSI (generic system image) port that would work with phones like Fairphone, which GOS don’t want to officially support due to a lack of security features. I wonder if anyone has started work on such a thing.
Samsung? They will not give a shit it huge corp
If there’s enough pushback, they’ll eventually either do it or they’ll die.
That’s true but you never know maybe in future they will. Definitely don’t see them doing it now. It would definitely be a hop on the wagon moment for them
OEM’s
Or just OEMs, even.
Ya. Short term Motorola for Graphene, long term any that support postmarketos
The short term is forked android. The long term is a Linux distribution, new or otherwise. It doesn’t seem reasonable to assume that the proprietary blobs in Android will get reverse engineered.
That will definitely be the focus. If Europe people can mandate making Android and Apple Ecosystems be opened to having real GNU/Linux or anything else they want to be able to be put on it then that would make huge changes to getting that to happen
I’f put my money on a repairable Huawei phone
There is also shiftphone. Thats less extreme to fairphone when it comes to fairness but very repairable
