I’m ideologically transparency extremist. This means I want absolute openness for everyone. Overwhelming majority of people on lemmy and other places disagree with me, which means that statistically I’m wrong.
I have some strong arguments for my side and most argumentation from your side is just common trolling or logical fallacies, which makes me think that I’m correct.
Even with that, the software I use is probably more private than solid portion of members of this community, becuase almost everything I use is open source.
I want to give your side another chance. I hope for polite and fruitful discussion.
The first thing the Nazis did when they marched into the Netherlands, the took the religious information from the citizens register to deport all Jews.
Oppressive regimes are using information to track down dissidents and let them vanish.
If you want to blast out every detail of your life, be m guest.
But forcing your idea of life and safety down everyone’s throught is not the way to go.
Notice how that was possible because they could access those informations in secret
They did not make any secret our of it. China does not make a secret our of it. The US no longer makes a secret out of it.
What?
Can i have password to your account, please?
Not like this
Damn. I can’t remember. Was it Hunter-2?
“IhopeIwillrememberthisone” for this lemmy account. I use 2FA everywhere, because that’s more secure. I also believe in TOTAL transparency, in my ideal world everyone would share their details.
Also nice troll
Give me all of your account passwords, right now.
Nice troll. I use 2FA. I’m assuming you are going to share yours
Why do you use 2FA? You shouldn’t. You don’t like privacy.
2FA is secure, not private. I still very much like security. |
2FA is open if anything. The standard is open and it makes it safer to share passwords in public
You silly goose. 2FA is protecting the privacy of what’s inside your account. You’re essentially saying “I hate privacy but not actually because I still keep my accounts private.” Very silly. Sorry.
2FA is protecting access. Data is public
Tell me your dick size and will tell you why you need privacy.
Somewhere between 10 and 15 cm. I never cared to measure
People deserve privacy because there are many things they want to protect, and it’s their prerogative on how much they’re willing to share.
A lot of the things we hide could be used to hurt us if someone with malicious intent had access to them. Our account logins, our bank accounts, ways to access our houses.
Such as?
If everything were public, you would see when someone accesses your bank account for example
Tell me your views on if children deserve privacy?
Privacy is not something one can deserve, just as being tortured
Do you believe children should be able to use the restroom and dress in private or not? Simple yes or no?
Yes, but they could do that with their parents if they want
I’m just establishing the baseline that there is some degree of privacy which is not only expected but simply justified with intuition alone. So, there is a line somewhere. Where one draws that line may differ. Your line is no doubt extreme to many; certainly me. But some privacy is critical to a functioning society. I tend to believe that aside from those that hold public office, there is little reason not to have complete privacy.
Okay, fair. Thanks for not treating me as an idiot or a troll.
So, you love absolute transparency, but you hate privacy. Alright. Then you will answer my questions truthfully.
Where do you live? How much income do you have per month? What is your bank account number? Do you use VISA or Mastercard? What is your credit card number including the expiration date and the CVC?
And no, I am not a troll, troll.
I live in Poland in city of Nowiny, I get somewhere between 400 to 600PLN income per month. I don’t have a card issued by my bank and I can’t currently access my account number
“I’m not a troll” trolls
Alright.
- Upload 3 photos of yourself to this thread: 1 from your shoulders and up (with your whole face clearly visible), 1 showing your profile from the shoulders and up, and 1 where we can see your whole body. All pictures must be the original files straight from the camera app with the metadata attached.
- How tall are you in cm?
- How much do you weight in kg?
- What is your street address and postal code?
- What is your phone number with the country code?
- Are you single or married or in a relationship?
- Why you can’t access your bank?
- Do you have any credit card that you have money on? If yes, what are the credit card number, expiration date, and CVC of all the credit cards that you have?
- What is the name of your bank?
- What phone do you use, and what applications do you have installed on it?
- Do you use Windows, Linux, or macOS?
- What is your interests?
- Do you have any sexual fetishes? If yes, state them all.
- What is your sexual orientation?
- Who is your closest friend?
- Do you live alone?
- Do you have any siblings?
- Are your parents still alive?
- What is your date of birth?
- Have you ever got caught by the police? If yes, for what, when, for how many times, and what was the outcome (jail, fines, etc.)?
- List your 5 favourite movies.
- List your 5 favourite TV shows.
- How many bills do you have per month?
- What kind of bills do you have?
- Name 3 people that you care the most about.
Follow the instructions and answer all of these questions truthfully so we can build a profile of you. Since you love full transparency and hate privacy, doing all of this without any lies should be easy for you.
- https://imgur.com/a/3L2jf98
- 183cm
- 97kg
- Zgórsko 67E, 26-052
- +48 793 682 348
- Single
- Because I don’t have the code and I would have to request a new code from my bank, which I can’t do in sunday, also there’s no need to
- No
- Pekao SA
- I have CMF Phone 2 Pro, buying which was the second biggest mistake in my life. This is the FULL list of installed applications: Uninistallable garbage, aurora store, cromite, whatsapp, messenger, signal, delta chat, proton pass, youtube revanced, futo keyboard, epson printer, github, lichess, newpipe, aegis auth, accu battery, revanced manager, obsidian, anki
- I use linux, nixos, here is my config: https://github.com/First-Non-Interesting-Username/NixOS-config
- Computers, linux and software
- Non sexual content
- Aroace
- She told me that I can’t name her online or share any other infromations about her
- No
- Yes
- Yes
- 25.01.2010
- No
- In no particular order: Fanatyk, Flat Earth - Serious Analysis. AOT The Last Attack, Project Hail Mary and that’s all, I haven’t watch a movie not from this list in ages
- AOT, ATLA
- No
- N/A
- My mom, My dad, My friend
Hey, appreciate you opening the floor for genuine discussion. I’ll do my best to give you real arguments rather than the usual noise you’ve probably encountered.
First, a key distinction that often gets muddled: Privacy isn’t secrecy. Nobody’s arguing for a right to conceal wrongdoing. Privacy is about control over information flow—deciding when, to whom, and how much you disclose. Rejecting privacy because some people use it to hide bad things is like rejecting doors because some people lock them for bad reasons.
The power asymmetry problem: “Absolute openness for everyone” sounds egalitarian, but in practice it creates an infrastructure that benefits the powerful. If all transactions, communications, and associations are public, who has the resources to actually exploit that data? Corporations for profiling, governments for political monitoring, employers for discrimination, insurers for risk assessment. Ordinary people can’t process or act on that ocean of data—but Facebook, Google, and state agencies sure can. So paradoxically, radical transparency tends to increase power concentration rather than flatten it.
Chilling effects are real and documented: When people know they’re being observed, they self-censor. This affects dissent, minority viewpoints, identity exploration, support group participation, even just the freedom to make mistakes and grow. There’s a reason secret ballots exist—transparency in how you voted would enable intimidation. The principle scales.
The open source thing is interesting: You mention using mostly open-source software, which is itself a privacy-preserving choice. Open source lets you audit what your software does, resist opaque surveillance, and maintain control over your computing environment. So you’re already practicing a form of privacy advocacy at the infrastructure level, even if you reject it at the personal data level. Maybe the tension is that you want institutional transparency (governments, corporations accountable to the public) but don’t see the need for personal privacy—and those aren’t actually in conflict. You can want both.
**On being statistically outnumbered: **Fair point that majority opinion isn’t proof of correctness. But I’d suggest the pushback you’re seeing isn’t purely ideological—many people arrive at privacy preferences through lived experience: harassment, doxxing, stalking, discrimination, political persecution, identity theft. These aren’t hypothetical edge cases.
What I’d genuinely propose instead of absolute openness: Contextual integrity—the idea that information flows are appropriate when they respect social context. Your health data belongs with your doctor, not advertisers. Political donations belong with regulators for accountability, but not necessarily with your employer. Corporate filings should be public, but your browsing history shouldn’t.
The real question isn’t “privacy vs. transparency” but “what deserves transparency and what deserves protection?” And those answers differ depending on whether we’re talking about a government official’s finances or a regular person’s medical records.
I’m curious though—what specifically drives your transparency preference? Is it institutional accountability? A belief that human nature handles openness well? Something else? I’d like to understand the steel-manned version of your position better, because I think there’s a real conversation to be had about where the lines should actually be drawn.
Thanks ChatGPT.
If there’s no privacy, there’s no option for those bad people to do bad things.
Fair point, but indexing and monitoring isn’t that hard, I think there would be groups responsible for most crimes and wrongdoings.
Those effects also increase your productivity and make you work better (even on personal things).
Open source is open, not private.
Those are all emotional things, not facts
So just privacy?
what specifically drives your transparency preference?
hate for privacy and the fact transparency fixes all the problem privacy fixes, but better
Thanks ChatGPT
To be transparent, yes, but you started it.
I didn’t use chatgpt, but I don’t care. All are care about is value of arguments and yours was one of the best


