Look for an error in the journal as soon as the error you mentioned happens. Maybe some details get saved in the journal. Post it somewhere online like pastebin, then we can maybe tell you what to check next
Like others have said, what you are experiencing is super unusual
Like @wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works just said, run memory test.
What hw do you have in that laptop?
something went wrong, but we’re not sure what it is.
Check the system journal with
sudo journalctl -e
HP: you are not going to get fired. You will quit.
Where is the link to this in Google maps?
Didn’t they discover them years ago at the garbage dump in Japan?
Who was the guy that had a lot of pauses with mmmmmm when talking?
Depends on the timeline.
X crashed way more for me on kde than Wayland on gnome. ‘Never’ is quite the statement.
Right. And I’m interested if there are some legitimate needs for you to run x until it stops working.
Or is this just a revolt?
Why would someone stay with x even though it’s deprecated, architecturally broken and unmaintainable
Until I cannot run software on X11, I won’t switch over knowingly.
Please explain
People don’t really love chrome, but they do love meat. Go vegan suggests we get rid of something we love.
I agree, all the apps I use run natively on Wayland, but I think there will always be some legacy X11 apps that won’t get ported. So, I think I’ll implement it, but it is definitely not a priority.
While I understand the need for legacy, I also think at some point legacy should be left alone. If it is really needed for some old app to run, VM should do fine. I don’t think missing xorg is ever going to be an issue in 2025+ (well, Electron apps maybe). Yet added and not used features (or seldom used features) is offset with future maintenance burden and/or security issues for no good reason.
This also applies to OpenGL comment. Every code path introduces a maintenance burden. While support of more devices is good, supported devices are super old in this case and the question is - is it worth it? Vulkan drivers should either way be in a better state.
Looks very interesting! I wonder how it works, so I definitely will check it out.
Is super cool, there is a presentation in one of the conferences about it. Architecture is explained somewhere in the docs. Anyway, if you do implement it - this would be a good alternative to https://guacamole.apache.org
Who knows, maybe it would be a money opportunity.
Why?
It’s not Microsoft, but actually an open source community running open source forge. Also, it’s way faster to use in browser.
If we are talking ideas, I would propose the following:
I know dropping xwayland and opengl is unpopular, but this is where things are going. It’s on the gnome Todo sometime because as far as I read, there is development for mutter to be built totally without xorg support. Plus they recently switched gtk4 to use New vulkan rendered by default.
Another question came to my mind: how is video processing handled? There were some changes in Mutter and/or gtk4 so it would be efficient, any chance for louvre to have it?. E.g. https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-46-Beta-Released
This looks awesome.
Looks like it could be a very good alternative to mutter and kwin.
Questions:
I would argue that gnome is pretty stable in recent years. Don’t remember when was the last time something crashed.
This might would probably be true for Extensions.
KDE has been unstable for me on Wayland in the past.
The only thing i missed was some KDE apps since they look butt ugly on gnome so you have to find alternatives. Krita comes to mind.
You don’t have Krunner, but when you press meta/start button, you get a text field in the overview that works similar. I used krunner only to start the apps and gnome overview gave me exactly the same functionality. So the thing that changed is keyboard shortcut: instead alt-f2, you would use meta/start and just start typing.
Just try it out and see if there is something you miss.
If you do switch, try to use it as meant by gnome ux, do not force it to be something it is not. This is what I did initially and after suffering for a while (I missed the start menu so used extensions etc) I dropped all extensions and tried to use it vanilla. After a month or two, workflow really stuck and I prefer it to windows and kde. Simplicity of it works for me since I don’t use it for anything but starting other apps: browser, terminal, files, vscode… Also, when you add apps to dock, you can start them with alt-number (this works in kde and windows as well), so even the dock I find irrelevant.
You also get something more in functionality, apps and stability (not that you only lose stuff moving off kde). E.g. accessing Samba shares with smb:// works well in gnome, where you can open movies from the share directly. While you can open the share in dolphin, you cannot open the movie directly from the remote location, you need to copy it first. (At least my experience before plasma 6, maybe it changed…). Another example is gnome boxes for VMs which is great.
Edit: one thing I do miss - systray.
The question is if they will close that 15-20y gap in 3-5y