That’s fair 👍🏿

Why not just be an ML at that point, you’re already like 75% there lmao

Lol then I’ll ask the age old question of how do you expect to protect your revolution with no vanguard or DoTP? How do you stop the systemic issue of racism without an actual system to suppress it? That was the chief reason as to why I thought anarchism was silly.

If you want to do an internal critique start with what Jesus said

I guess you didn’t read the part where he said “I have not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it” and that “not one stroke or letter will be changed”. People always use the “greatest commandments” bullshit to act like he said ignore all the laws, those are done with, when he explicitly said the opposite. People don’t read the book.

Churches twist the message into hate and division

This is just straight up not true. The default position is one of division of believers and nonbelievers. The book preaches hate, and the churches gladly spread the message, because it’s from an “all-knowing, all-good god”. By default everything god does is good, so all the horrific shit is good.

There are lots of good Christians who could be good communists if atheist communists weren’t so dogmatic spiteful and dismissive.

Lol yeah it’s totally my fault that I actually read the book and came to the conclusion that christianity is vile and repulsive. There’s a reason why colonialism and christianity go hand in hand and it has nothing to do with atheism.

ceremonial and community aspects of religion and basically argues that these serve a purpose that purely secular life lacks

I disagree. You even say:

I’m inclined to believe that whether it’s technically religion or no, some people are going to find ways to do things in a manner similar to the solemnity and reverence of religion.

Yeah, which reinforces the idea that it’s not necessary. You see regular ass people worshiping sports players, but at least they’re actually real and not telling people to commit genocide and owning slaves.

That doesn’t mean religious people are going to happily and easily give up religion and replace it with nothing.

That goes without saying? For some reason people seem to think this is the position of atheists who see the horrors of religions and it’s just like…not?

No one is ever going to convince me that this stuff is good for humanity as a former indoctrinated christian of almost 20 years, and it seems like there’s a weird gentle handling and defense of this horrific shit, I’ll never understand it.

Then we…don’t need it at all? If you can just change whatever words to fit whatever you need at any time then there’s no point to it whatsoever. It doesn’t give us anything inherently that secularism doesn’t.

Christians can take the words of their central figure seriously, but I shouldn’t in a internal critique?

I think the institution shouldn’t exist at all if it justifies oppression. No amount of coping is going to change what the bible actually says.

Jesus also said to follow the law of Moses so he was cool with the slavery, rape, etc.

Idk why people keep acting like he was some kind of socialist. It’s just cope

That would be so fire actually, turning myths and concepts into actual enemies, kinda like Chainsaw Man