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  • wischi@programming.devOPtoMemes@lemmy.ml6÷2(1+2)
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    1 year ago

    Regarding your first part in general true, but in this case the sheer amount of calculators for both conventions show that this is indeed intended behavior.

    Regarding your second point I tried to address that in the “distributive property” section, maybe I need to rewrite it a bit to be more clear.


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    1 year ago

    Thank you so much for taking the time and reading the post. I just fixed the typos, many thanks for pointing them out.

    There is nothing really to be embarrassed about and if you look at the comment sections of such viral math posts you can see that you are certainly not the only one. I think that mnemonics that use “MD” and “AS” without grouping like in “PE(MD)(AS)” are really to blame here.

    An alternative would be to drop the inverse and only use say multiplication and addition as I suggested with “PEMA” but with “PEMDAS” one basically sets up students for the problem that they think that multiplication comes before division.



  • wischi@programming.devOPtoMemes@lemmy.ml6÷2(1+2)
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    1 year ago

    Same priority operations are solved from left to right. There is not a single credible calculator that would evaluate “6 / 2 * 3” to anything else but 9.

    But I challenge you to show me a calculator that says otherwise. In the blog are about 2 or 3 dozend calculators referenced by name all of them say the same thing. Instead of a calculator you can also name a single expert in the field who would say that 6 / 2 * 3 is anything but 9.



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    In this case it’s actually the absence of sources. I couldn’t find a single credible source that states that ÷ has somehow a different operator priority than / or that :

    The only things there are a lot of are social media comments claiming that without any source.

    My guess is that this comes from a misunderstanding that the obelus sign is forbidden in a lot of standards. But that’s because it can be confused with other symbols and operations and not because the order of operations is somehow unclear.



  • wischi@programming.devOPtoMemes@lemmy.ml6÷2(1+2)
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    1 year ago

    I’d really like to know if and how your view on that matter would change once you read the full post. I know it’s very long and a lot of people won’t read it because they “already know” the answer but I’m pretty sure it would shift your perception at least a bit if you find the time to read it.



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    1 year ago

    It’s actually “both”. There are two conventions. One is a bit more popular in science and engineering and the other one in the general population. It’s actually even more complicated than that (thus the long blog post) but the most correct answer would be to point out that the implicit multiplication after the division is ambiguous. So it’s not really “solvable” in that form without context.


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    1 year ago

    True, and it’s not only about learning math but that there is actually no consensus even amongst experts, about the priority of implicit multiplications (without explicit multiplication sign). In the blog post there are a lot of things that try to show why and how that’s the case.