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Renfield@lemmy.ml to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 6 months ago

It's been about 9 years since the Western left took its idpol turn – what has that accomplished? How has it helped? Who has it helped?

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It's been about 9 years since the Western left took its idpol turn – what has that accomplished? How has it helped? Who has it helped?

Renfield@lemmy.ml to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 6 months ago
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  • davel@lemmy.ml
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    It’s been about 9 years since the Western left took its idpol turn

    Define your terms.

    • What happened 9 years ago?
    • What exactly is “idpol”?
    • What exactly is the “Western left”?

    If I had to guess, I’d say that you watched a few YouTube videos selected for you by the YouTube algorithm, and then assumed everyone else in the Lemmyverse is in the exact same headspace as you.

    My Marxist-Leninist conceptualization of what “Western left” and “idpol” mean might be very different from yours.

    • Western Marxism: How it was Born, How it Died, How it can be Reborn
    • Imperialist Propaganda and the Ideology of the Western Left Intelligentsia: From Anticommunism and Identity Politics to Democratic Illusions and Fascism
    • https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Western_Marxism
    • https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Left-wing_anticommunism
    • https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Identity_politics
    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combahee_River_Collective

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    Previously: https://lemmy.ml/post/15667745/11073512

  • Jackthelad@lemmy.world
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    I hate everything to do with identity politics. All it has done is divide us even more and caused more conflict between ordinary people.

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    You could argue the right is more focused on identity politics and for a longer time than the left.

    The original meaning of idpol being doing politics as a matter of identity rather than ideas. It’s why you can get MAGAts to agree with you on a lot of stuff and disagree with the GOP, but they’ll still vote red, because their identity is republican.

  • Gjolin@lemmy.ml
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    It helped liberals pinkwash their crimes. Reminds me of that meme of the B-54 on a bombing raid with the pride flag on its side.

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