Let’s say there is a tulip lovers club, where they talk about tulips, their variations and how to grow them. Let’s say someone new joins the club, this new person starts saying that tulips are rubbish and that roses are better or something like that. This person becomes so insistent with these statements that they end up being kicked out of the club. Before leaving, the person calls the club an “Echo Chamber” about tulips.
Would this person be right?
It’s all about execution everyone should be questioning themselves if they are correct in there thinking and creating an atmosphere of wanting to be proving wrong. If I join the group with an agenda of tearing down the group then no it’s not an echo chamber when I get kicked out. But if I join and then notice something about the tulips like they use too much water or are bad for the soil and I bring that evidence with the intent to have a good faith discussion about it. But I’m still kicked out that’s is an echo chamber.
Interesting take. Yeah, if good faith criticism is silenced, it’s a clear sign there’s something fishy
the former is always confused for the latter; especially on lemmy.
Sure, from their perspective it’s an echo chamber for tulip lovers. In the end it’s a subjective pejorative, not necessarily a hard descriptive.
It also implies that actively ignoring opposing viewpoints is a negative thing.
There are plenty of negative and harmful things to exclude that don’t result in an echo chamber. Excluding nazis for example is not being a real echo chamber because there will never be anything new that could be said to keep it from being a hate based ideology.
If you want to read about it, I recommend “echo chambers and epistemic bubbles”, by Thi Nguyen. It’s a good paper to understand this topic deeply.
Link: https://sci-hub.st/https://doi.org/10.1017/epi.2018.32
Were they kicked out solely for having a differing opinion? Then it’s indisputably an echo chamber
Do the members seldom here opposing opinions outside of strawmen arguments or the occasional troll? Then it’s a defacto echo chamber
All organizations with common interests run the risk of becoming one, but the trap is particularly insidious for (and often weaponized by) online communities
