• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    Consider that Iran has already taken down - allegedly - as many as four F-35Is, I can think of a few reasons why the US has been reluctant to tangle with either country.

    Trump’s rush to invade Iran only happened after Israel preemptively launched their military decapitation attack and missile bombardment “preemptive” strikes. The US has been dragging its heels on an Iran invasion since the 2002 Millennium Challenge suggested an all out war with Iran would be a disaster for US international fighting capacity. The definition of a pyrrhic victory.

    Already, the US deployment away from the Pacific Rim has resulted in Chinese ships occupying territorial waters that the US had historically patrolled.

    So this is already shaping up to be a historic internationally reorienting military blunder, even without nukes involved. Imagine the US trying to do an Iraq-style land war in Russia, plus an invasion of Iran, plus the low-key war with Yemen and Somalia, plus our military operations in North Africa, plus policing the Pacific, plus doing our military exercises on the US/Mexico border, plus whatever dumb horseshit military parades Trump wants to see.

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    If USA beginns a War with Iran, also Rusia and China do against the US. The EU in the middle between them

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      That’s the point everyone making these memes is missing. If they actually had nukes already, none of this would be happening.

      This offensive is supposed to make sure they don’t develop nuclear weapons, whether the reasoning is fabricated or not.

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        If they actually had nukes already, none of this would be happening.

        Something would be happening.

        Israel seems perfectly happy to unleash wave after wave of terrorist attack and assassination campaign on individuals within the Iranian government. To date, this tier of attack has failed to cause any country to break the nuclear taboo. We didn’t nuke Afghanistan after 9/11 (although a few fringe elements suggested we should). Russia hasn’t used nukes in Ukraine. Despite suffering their own wave of terror attacks, France and England haven’t unleashed nuclear hellfire in North Africa or the Middle East. Indian and Pakistan haven’t traded nukes over their border disputes.

        Would a nuclear-armed Iran drop a nuke over Solemani or the pager bombs against Hezbollah? If nuclear-armed Israel can keep their bombs on the ground, I have to assume Iran wouldn’t be any more extreme.

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        If only we could create some sort of agreement with Iran where they wouldn’t build nuclear weapons. That would solve the problem without need for violence. Only somebody actively looking to start a war would walk away from a deal like that.

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    The west showing once again that the only way to be a sovereign nation is to have nukes.
    And the west showing once again that for them international law is nothing more than a tool to wield at their discretion against their geo-strategic rivals.

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    Libya agreed to give up it’s nuclear ambitions and look what Obama did to them. DPRK, despite seven decades of effort by the US to destroy it, is still standing. What lesson is a world leader in the US’s crosshairs supposed to garner from these examples?

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        I kind of expect that plan would fail. I expect there are radiation detectors at shipping ports and airports. Also one nuclear weapon just pisses off the hive. It would need to cripple for it to be truly effective.

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    I’m sure Iran has a dirty bomb. They just are not insane enough to use it. They might be angry. But they are not that insane.

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    Well, no, Ryssia has nuclear weapons, Iran is close to having the ability to produce a nuclear weapon. Ones slightly more immediate.