Introducing search party for ‘illegals’
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anyone who objects to mass surveillance obviously hates puppies
You got me, but actually I mostly want the christian families and their children to be sad
No this is fine it’ll only be used to find lost puppies I’m sure.
This won’t be abused at all /s
No kidding, and the feature is on by default. It’ll be lost human family members next.
They already partnered with flock last year, the same flock that shares with “law” enforcement
I was trying to point out that this feature may be even worse than that because it doesn’t even require a formal law enforcement request. If this becomes what it looks like, even private contractors will be able to access it without raising any alarms, further lowering the bar.
It’s not that it will be abused. It means this private company already does much more with it, about you. Oh wait, not a private company, one of the worst companies of all time
Ok but you can just rewrite this meme with your deauth packets on the left side and Wifi 6 on the right side.
The next step they’ll take is hooking into the amber alert system to find missing kids. Then, it will be finding “criminals,” which applies to basically everyone thanks to NPSM-7.
The “If I’ve got nothing to hide, why should I care” argument has predictably aged like sour milk.
The fun part is that they’re already at the “criminals” stage and we have been for a while. The marketing team is just backing into it and manufacturing consent.
Yup, this is effective propaganda used to make people feel good about the devices.
They were hinting at its use for that in this ad by showing a young child right away.
The “If I’ve got nothing to hide, why should I care” argument has predictably aged like sour milk.
has it? the kind of critical thought that easily dispels this fallacy isn’t being applied right now on a global scale as evidenced by the fact that people are blaming russia for the epstein illuminati ring.
Not sure that I’m following/understanding. I’m saying that skeptics of the “if I’ve got nothing to hide” argument were correct. You do have something to hide if the people in power suddenly change the definition of what’s legal.
the “i have nothing to hide” argument is easily dispelled by several avenues of critical thought; including the one your comment points out.
this sort of critical thought is not being applied to the russia/epstein narrative that’s taking hold on american politics right now.
That’s actually insane to advertise that Gestapo feature. I’m literally shocked - which happens (unfortunately) rarely these days. There is so much shit going on in this world
I wonder how hard it would be to rework this advertisements to be what it’s actually used for:
- Immigrants spotted! Administrative warrant issued, ICE deployed!
- Automatic License Plate Recognition with Flock (now a partner), found a “criminal”. Administrative warrant issued, ICE deployed!
- etc.
I hate it so much that these dystopian devices are all advertised as a positive thing and, worst of all, that there are millions of dumbasses going “well that sounds like a great idea!”
Are there really enough braindead consumers out there to make this viable?
Yes.
Nextdoor is full of morons sharing their ring videos and then going, “Well my videos aren’t being shared online to Amazon because I checked the ‘privacy’ settings.”
Most people you will meet outside are brain-dead.
“they who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
Yes I know the issues with the founding father narrative. However, I think that this quote is very true and applies to the situation we are currently facing.
Ted Kazcynski had somewhat of a point - I say somewhat because he was a leftist hater and I think a bit off the rails. Technology is already way out of control, I don’t think most people understand that if there were to be a socialist revolution in a 1st world country any time soon, just how much of an advantage the state has over the people due to it’s surveillance network. Privacy for all intents and purposes is practically gone already if you’re of interest to the intelligence agencies and around anything with a connection and/or even just standing outside thanks to satellite imagery. And that is just the technology which we know of, it’s horrifying to think about the possibility of tech that remains classified.
I agree with your main point, but I do want to criticize
I think he was a bit off the rails and a leftist hater.
This is an understatement. He was an ecofascist in all except name. In Industrial Society and Its Future, his critiques of the right basically boil down to “they’re bad at optics” and his critiques of the left basically boil down to “they care about animals, [slurs], and women.” He was the archetype of “claim to be centrist because I know how unpopular my actual opinions are.”
That being said, I also want to shed light on a little glimmer of hope hidden inside the surveillance state:
if there were to be a socialist revolution in a 1st world country any time soon, just how much of an advantage the state has over the people due to it’s surveillance network.
A few counterpoints to this:
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A point I learned from a movie of all places, no less poignant that it was a movie about resisting the surveillance state (Enemy of the State): one of the primary principles of Guerilla Warfare is to use your opponents biggest strength and turn it into their weakness. This leads me into my next point:
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There is way too much data. A major part of the push for AI is because it can emulate human decision making while parsing orders of magnitude more data. Trying to find a person in Petabytes worth of video and imagery and metadata is like finding a needle in a hay-planet. Sure, they may have all that surveillance, but most of the signal gets lost in the billions of times more noise.
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The government is not a monolith. The 50-agencies-in-a-trench-coat may try to pass themselves off as a unified entity, but when push comes to shove, they’re a bunch of organizations that all have their own agenda, and each organization is just a bunch of people that all have their own agenda. Push hard enough, and you’ll start to see the cracks form. Talk to any government employee and you’ll soon realize their org is just as susceptible to all the internal bullshit squabbles that any private company is.
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Piggybacking off of 2 and 3: they need manpower that they don’t have. When we talk about “the state” or “the government,” we can lose sight of the fact that these organizations aren’t composed of countless, faceless people. Instead of 10% of all civilians, it’s less than 1%. This number may still be huge compared to the size of local leftist org chapters and lemmy communities, but it’s only like 1.3% of the working class.
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Combining 3 and 4: the large majority of those government employees are also part of the proletariat. Their loyalty to the government only extends as far as their paycheck, and if any kind of class revolution were to kick into full swing, there would be a mass exodus of labor. There would also be hundreds of thousands of workers who are sympathetic to the cause on the inside, throwing wrenches in all kinds of cogs.
So yes, things are pretty bleak with the state of privacy in this day and age. No, there is no magical solution where an authoritarian government just willfully cedes its power to control its populace. No, there won’t be any way to altogether avoid revolutionaries being incarcerated or worse. No, it won’t fix itself, nor will somebody else take the reigns while we can comfortably be bystanders.
But it’s not already a lost cause.
Such a beautiful reply, I wish I was as educated with my research & analysis as well as so articulate with my points as you are - instead of my typical half-assed rambling lol. Thank you and sorry for being overly pessimistic!
Great post, i want to scream when i see the smash the state type people portraying that very state as some all powerful perfect omnipitent machine
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And if I upload a photo of a brown-skinned person?
SPRAYPAINT EVERY SINGLE ONE. CALL THEIR OWNERS OUT. DESTROY. THAT. SHIT.
(Writing this with a device in my hand with a front and several back cameras, super sensitive microphone, and internet acces)
Ew wtf
