Surveillance strategies in the UK and Israel often go global

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    6 days ago

    Fuck this shit. The UK is not longer a free country. And fuck Israel even more for their damned work over the decades to make this possible.

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      6 days ago

      I remember in the 1990s when you went to download Netscape you could only use the 40-bit encryption if you were in Europe, not the 128-bit encryption people in the USA could use.

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    7 days ago

    No clue where that is from and if it’s already in effect, but what’s marked here only talks about developers, not users. Still, what a world to live in

  • mlg@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    sneak up into a dark street corner at night

    “Ay you got that ed25519?”

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    So literally everyone in the UK using any website that uses TLS is now a hostile actor?

    Essentially everyone’s a criminal which is a huge boon for the government. They can now get rid of anyone they want at any time, legally.

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      7 days ago

      TLS is not typically considered end-to-end encryption. It’s transport encryption.

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        I don’t get it. E2ee is about encryption in transit not encryption at rest. TLS sounds exactly like e2ee

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          E2E is about the sender encrypting, and only the intended receiver decrypting, with nothing in the middle able to read the data.

          TLS is not designed for that, as the server you connect to is not necessarily the intended receiver, yet it can see everything.

          With E2E, you can send data to a server, which is not the intended receiver, and it won’t be able to read it.

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            Your explanation assumes that scope and scale are part of the definition which it is not.

            If you keep zooming in or zooming out the definition of E2E keeps changing under your statement.

            If the only knowledge a system has is between a sender and a receiver (Which satisfies even your definition of “intended recipient”) then TLS is E2E encrypted.

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              The definition of E2EE has evolved since the concept surfaced. You seem to be stuck with the original meaning.

              TLS does not fit the modern definition.

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                Yes the technical term has evolved but did the term evolve in the legislation definition of it?

                If not, then the technically correct usage doesn’t matter which is a point I’ve made in another comment as well.

                And in my previous comment, I am pointing out the logical inconsistencies. Not that I agree or disagree with the technical terminology. You seem to be conflating a logical explanation/call-out of logic holes for my opinion, which it is not

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        Do they strictly define end to end encryption in this bill?

        If not, then yes, TLS is “end to end” as the sender encrypts the message, and the receiver decrypts it. Each “end” to each “end” is encrypted, satisfying the semantics of the term.

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    So google, amazon and Microsoft are hostile actors.every cloud provider is an enemy of uk government. They have gardeners (at best) or lawyers ( most probably), which did their own research.before writing these abominations. At the same time, they want to give all medical datas in the NHS to palantir. This is the apoteosis of incompetence.

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      So google, amazon and Microsoft are hostile actors

      Obviously not. They’re happy to give MI5 a backdoor into all their systems.

      This is the apoteosis of incompetence.

      The age old question - malicious or stupid.