What are your opinions on homeschooling?
My opinion: Both have pros and cons.
I have heard that homeschooled kids are often better academically and more intelligent compared to average students. But they have bad social skills and have a lot of anxiety.
In normal school, you might have better social skills for sure. And you might grow up good if you don’t get influenced by the rotten people at school and if you don’t get into drugs or stuff due to peer pressure. But that’s IF YOU DON’T GET INTO THESE. If you get into these, good luck getting outta these. And there’s the concern of getting bullied too…
So I personally think homeschooling might be a better choice.
I was homeschooled K-12 and never went to college, so home school is literally all I know and I have thoughts.
- Motivation matters - I was home schooled for religious reasons by parents who were themselves educated but wholly unqualified to teach a single child much less 4 kids. They homeschooled us primarily to avoid the indoctrination of the secular world, where the lies of evolution and gay baby killers reigned supreme. Thus, I was not well educated and didn’t realize it until I got into the work force. I have been battling crippling imposter syndrome ever since I realized how deficient my education was - I’m still in the process of understanding the scope of that deficiency
- oversight is not optional. In my situation, we were homeschooled without any government involvement or oversight in any way. My parents told me at the time that this was how the laws in my state worked but they also told me to stay away from Truant Officers so I think they were lying. I had no sense of equivalency or where I stood compared to my peers until I was in the process of testing out to get my GED (because weirdly, prospective employees weren’t keen to accept the “diploma” my dad had printed from MS Word) that I saw my percentile rank in various subject
- Unless you are an educator, don’t try to run a curriculum. If you’re going to homeschool, pay a tutor. If you can’t pay a tutor, probably don’t home school
I know that last bit sounds extreme and I don’t think my home school experience is typical so take it with a grain of salt.
Edit: none of this even addresses the social impacts, which are intense if not mitigated with a lot of sports and group activities, etc
Thanks for the comment
Actually thank you for the question. I’m still processing a lot of this stuff so in many ways writing it out ended up being to my benefit more than yours.
It’s banned in a lot of European countries AFAIK.
Should be banned in every country with decent public education. Unless you have a formal education background you have no business formally educating anyone. Everyone has stories of things their parents taught them that turned out to be total bullshit and they only found out because they went to actual school.
I have two homeschooled nieces. Their biggest strength is that they “like to dance”. Honesty, these girls are screwed and the world is going to grind them up as soon as they have to survive on their own.
Let your kids learn from professionals. This is like you expecting to be able to be a good accountant with no training.
Let your kids learn about social pressure and stress with easy kid problems, don’t let their first experiences be as an adult with no coping skills.
Parents overestimate their ability to be a good teacher.
Parents overestimate their ability to be a good teacher.
i have a friend who has her EdE. her profession before she had kids was teaching PhDs how to teach their collegiate classes better. She had kids and decided to homeschool them. That lasted four years. Why? One simple truth: She is not an elementary educator. She is a graduate educator. One of the smartest people i know, all her kids are brilliant. They could probably graduate high school when they turn 12 if they did homeschooling, but instead they are getting to be children and it only took her 4 years to realize how important that is.
I’d have had an unarguably better life if I’d gotten into drugs with my friends in middle school. Which is to illustrate that I’m an outlier. Homeschooling sets your children up for failure. Most homeschooling programs out there are flat out bad. If you decide to do it, contact your local school district for reliable curriculum. They (professional educators) can point you in the right direction far better than the internet.
Makes sense
Depends on the parents. Lotta nutjobs and alot of lazy people and both amount to kids getting an inferior education. But committed to putting in the work, with the time to due so, and good resources in your community to assist you, because you’re unhappy with the quality of public education and/or the amount of propaganda kids are forced to sit thru? Good for you, home school away.
It should be illegal or heavily restricted, as it is in many countries already.
- The kid doesn’t get what’s easily the most important aspect of school (even more important than the curriculum), socialization.
- The kid gets an education from someone who likely has no qualifications whatsoever, and is more than likely homeschooling for fundamentalist religious reasons.
Homeschooled kids do things like base their opinions on, “I have heard” instead of citing empirical proof from rigorous sources.
It’s your ignorance and ego convincing you to do a disservice to your children.
Where I live, every principal is assigned a list of homeschooled children in their district and monitors their progress. If they are diligent, it seems to work out well. I know several well-adjusted, lovely children who have been homeschooled.
Wow, that’s such a great system!
Yeah, but it depends on the diligence of the principal, so not perfect.
I grew up in a cult that was big on home schooling so they could socially isolate their kids and keep them from getting any influence from outside the cult. It’s good for kids to be exposed to people from different back grounds and who have different opinions. You will never, never, never be able to replicate the interactions and social learning experiences they will have at school, at home. It’s borderline child abuse in my opinion.
Organizations like the homeschool legal defense association basically exist to protect child abusers.
An excellent form of inculcation.
I’ve worked with two people who were homeschooled. Both were smart, but well behind in their social development. And just very odd, off-putting people. When one of them wanted your attention, he’d just stand there silently waiting for you to notice him. Sometimes you’d turn around and there he was. The other proudly announced in a staff meeting that he was going to appear in a porn movie.
It is super great for indoctrinating your children. If you are driven and dedicated to learning, it can be great. Depends on your teachers and resources though.
Generally, I think it’s hubris for someone to think they can educate their kids better than a professional that’s trained for half-a-decade or more. And the most-common fear, that schools are “indoctrinating” kids, is easily countered: just be fucking involved in their lives.
That being said, the real world is always more compicated than theory. Parents should have a right to choose this path, coupled with a responsibility to adhere to the same educational standards as professionals.
In America (and i fear this has spread to other countries), people like Mary Pride have pushed for homeschooling in addition to basically starting the quiverful movement.
The idea is, you keep kids out of school so they are only allowed to learn your far right views, and you have as many kids as possible so you can 1) force the woman to stay at home and 2) have older kids forced to parent and teach younger kids.
You then involve the kids in politics as early as possible so by the time they are adults, they have already made inroads to working with far right politicians.
Some of those kids end up a certain version of smart, but the priorities are different. They might heavily focus on speech debate, both from a religious and a political point of view. On the “good” end of the spectrum, the kids end up truly charismatic and persuasive, and on the “bad” end, it’s basically tiny ben shapiros who just gish gallop you at any chance they get.
Often, but not always, girls are completely neglected since “they only need to learn how to run a home”. Oftentimes kids are abused, and homeschooling is a way to hide that from authorities.
To contrast with all of this, I think there situations where we should be more flexible with homeschooling. If a parent has expertise in a topic, they should be able to cover like a couple classes or something. I knew homeschooling kids who came to public school for a class or two, but I didn’t know any kids who were homeschooling for a class or two.
People in this thread are saying it’s dumb to think you can teach better than a teacher, but if it’s between 1:1 tutoring and being in a class of 30, you have a big step up.
Personally, I found math classes trivially easy basically up until i was like 17. Math classes till then mostly just focused on teaching how to accurately and repeatably do all the things that calculators do perfectly. I could rant about how math is taught a lot, but I won’t. If I had 1 on 1 teaching on a more diverse range of math topics, I could have learned way more. We should be helping parents/kids do that if they can.






