It make perfect sense. Hamas is a resistance group which main goal is ending of the occupation. If Hamas agreed with PLO view of palestinian liberation they would definitely collaborate with them against Israel
It does not magically invalidate the possibility Israel financed Hamas in their early days, if anything it makes it even more suspicious.
I perfectly understand what you are saying. You think Israel is such a very smart country that they can’t make mistakes and just created hamas to counter the PLO
I don’t think Israel is a smart country at all, quite the opposite actually. I think they are blood thirsty idiots. You clearly have a chip on your shoulder regarding this issue. What can’t be denied is the fact that Israel has billions of times the resources available to Palestine and an international network of wealthy Zionists working to undermine Palestine. This mismatch in resources is why Israel has out planned and outmanoeuvred Palestine so far. Palestine and Hamas have been fighting the wrong fight for 30 years now. The evidence for this is Israel’s continued encroachment on Palestinian territory at an increasing pace and today’s occupation of Gaza.
You know my arguments are strong that’s why you avoid them
I have not been avoiding anything dude. You are clearly not a native English speaker and I am having trouble understanding whether some of your points are bad English or bad logic.
That’s why you ignored that I said Israel was vilifying the plo and said the same exact think about them as they say against Hamas
The very next sentence you wrote is a perfect example of you not getting a coherent, comprehensible point across. The statement you made just doesn’t make any sense buddy, I’m not dodging anything, I was being polite by not saying anything until you decided to call me out.
This is an important moment for Palestine but you decided to repeat the bs about Hamas the biggest resistance group is simply a tool of Israel
I never said this and don’t believe that because Israel was involved in financing the precursor to Hamas 30 odd years ago that it makes them a tool of Israel today. The only way you seem to be able to argue against me is by putting words in my mouth and making things up.
Hamas is not pure in my mind
By “pure” I was not referring to their war crimes I was referring to the purity of their origin. You believe that Israel’s financing back then somehow contaminates the modern Hamas. This is where we disagree, I believe Israel’s early financing has no bearing on the group today, 30-40 years later.
his mismatch in resources is why Israel has out planned and outmanoeuvred Palestine so far. Palestine and Hamas have been fighting the wrong fight for 30 years now. The evidence for this is Israel’s continued encroachment on Palestinian territory at an increasing pace and today’s occupation of Gaza.
Armed resistance was always a fundamental part of fighting occupations. Fact is that most colonized countries has very low concrete support by populations of the world . Palestine tried to purely peaceful method , it didn’t prevent Israel from murdering Palestinians. People under oppression can’t simply do nothing and accept slow genocide and violent retaliation is inevitable . Because the situation is even worse now it doesn’t it , it was the wrong decision
You don’t seem to make a distinction between occupation and colonization too . Gaza never stopped being occupied since 67. It is because of hamas and other factions collaborating with them that Gaza moved from colonization with 8000 settlers to an occupation
I never said this and don’t believe that because Israel was involved in financing the precursor to Hamas 30 odd years ago that it makes them a tool of Israel today. The only way you seem to be able to argue against me is by putting words in my mouth and making things up.
Stop claiming that I talk specifically about you and that your intention is to delegitimate Hamas. I am talking about the impact behind the argument , not the intention begin mentioning the argument
You have yet tell me how it is pertinent to say Israel financed Hamas (which is inaccurate it they financed Mujama al-Islamiya and allowed Qatar fund to go to the Hamas government like they allow fund to go to the Palestinian authority ) when it was a charity organization considering that Hamas is the current strongest group fighting the genocidal army and that Israel had no problem to convince Palestinian are blood thirsty of geocoding all jews before Hamas existed
It does not magically invalidate the possibility Israel financed Hamas in their early days, if anything it makes it even more suspicious.
I don’t think Israel is a smart country at all, quite the opposite actually. I think they are blood thirsty idiots. You clearly have a chip on your shoulder regarding this issue. What can’t be denied is the fact that Israel has billions of times the resources available to Palestine and an international network of wealthy Zionists working to undermine Palestine. This mismatch in resources is why Israel has out planned and outmanoeuvred Palestine so far. Palestine and Hamas have been fighting the wrong fight for 30 years now. The evidence for this is Israel’s continued encroachment on Palestinian territory at an increasing pace and today’s occupation of Gaza.
I have not been avoiding anything dude. You are clearly not a native English speaker and I am having trouble understanding whether some of your points are bad English or bad logic.
The very next sentence you wrote is a perfect example of you not getting a coherent, comprehensible point across. The statement you made just doesn’t make any sense buddy, I’m not dodging anything, I was being polite by not saying anything until you decided to call me out.
I never said this and don’t believe that because Israel was involved in financing the precursor to Hamas 30 odd years ago that it makes them a tool of Israel today. The only way you seem to be able to argue against me is by putting words in my mouth and making things up.
By “pure” I was not referring to their war crimes I was referring to the purity of their origin. You believe that Israel’s financing back then somehow contaminates the modern Hamas. This is where we disagree, I believe Israel’s early financing has no bearing on the group today, 30-40 years later.
Armed resistance was always a fundamental part of fighting occupations. Fact is that most colonized countries has very low concrete support by populations of the world . Palestine tried to purely peaceful method , it didn’t prevent Israel from murdering Palestinians. People under oppression can’t simply do nothing and accept slow genocide and violent retaliation is inevitable . Because the situation is even worse now it doesn’t it , it was the wrong decision
You don’t seem to make a distinction between occupation and colonization too . Gaza never stopped being occupied since 67. It is because of hamas and other factions collaborating with them that Gaza moved from colonization with 8000 settlers to an occupation
Stop claiming that I talk specifically about you and that your intention is to delegitimate Hamas. I am talking about the impact behind the argument , not the intention begin mentioning the argument
You have yet tell me how it is pertinent to say Israel financed Hamas (which is inaccurate it they financed Mujama al-Islamiya and allowed Qatar fund to go to the Hamas government like they allow fund to go to the Palestinian authority ) when it was a charity organization considering that Hamas is the current strongest group fighting the genocidal army and that Israel had no problem to convince Palestinian are blood thirsty of geocoding all jews before Hamas existed