Orgs have to wean themselves off big tech dollars. Painful, but has to happen. They’ll have to restructure and refocus. Maybe cut out the AI stuff and focus on core functionality?

I have friends and family who occupy both sides of the political spectrum, so it’s impossible to have just one message that suits both. That’s why I’ve largely avoided politics my whole life…

But tech has become political, so it’s not that easy to avoid anymore 😬

On my website homepage Rebel Tech Alliance.org I try and make it clear that we’re trying to undermine a business model, not a political ideology. But the presence of the word ‘capitalism’ in surveillance capitalism does trigger some people to start talking politics.

harsh! but might work lol

I’ve had a bit of success with this - a cousin for example was shocked by a report I sent him about the RTB system - but I worry that if I send too many of those kinds of info then people will think I’m some kind of conspiracy theorist. 😱

You’re right. I replied to someone else about this - I’ll change the post.

This is a VERY interesting perspective - thank you for sharing!

You are lucky in Norway to have that level of trust, but I’d never considered the flip side: that it would create a dangerous apathy about privacy.

Your two angles are great:

1. This is so true but for some it is so nebulous, and it countries like the UK (and especially if you are white and not struggling financially) then there is an exceptionalism that creeps into the thinking. Probably because we’ve never been invaded and occupied. I was in Norway last year, and Denmark this year, and no one wants that to happen again. It seems to have shaped thinking a lot - correct me if i’m wrong 😊

2. This is a big one - privacy is a collective problem. It’s a team sport. I have had some success with this argument.

What’s very hard is to convey to people just how amazingly powerful and efficient big tech’s profiling models really are. Trillions of computations a minute to keep your creepy digital twin up to date. Most people cannot get their head round the scale of it, and I’m struggling to visualise it for them!

oh yes, convenience… a big problem when moving from the alternatives.

And I have to acknowlege that I’m an unusual case - I would rather use a less-good service than give my data to a better one. I know most people don’t think like that.

That’s why the alternatives we recommend are usually the zero knowledge encrypted ones, and they need to have a good experience. But privacy by design is sadly not that widely adopted in products. It has been increasing though, but just very slowly.

And about your point to hit the problem when mass change can happen e.g. political, legal - that is more the domain of our friends at other orgs like EFF, noyb, The Citizens etc. But you’re right, that is where change needs to happen. Not easy when the big tech firms lobby so hard and throw money at the problem.

OK try this https://simplex.chat/contact#%2F%3Fv=2-5&smp=smp%3A%2F%2F1OwYGt-yqOfe2IyVHhxz3ohqo3aCCMjtB-8wn4X_aoY%3D%40smp11.simplex.im%2Fu1AqxBdpGX7IjZ74F5H98xxYn_oI_PIK%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-2%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEAmgo4PVlg6L-YyASR7_PGZgvAgeXyTHOLmWqAVkE-sjM%253D%26srv%3D6ioorbm6i3yxmuoezrhjk6f6qgkc4syabh7m3so74xunb5nzr4pwgfqd.onion&data={"type"%3A"group"%2C"groupLinkId"%3A"5R1cLs7MuxTkMIfeezR8IA%3D%3D"}

ah… bugger. That’s the link I used. I’ll see if I can find another from the person who posted it.

Copying some HTML and CSS code into the llm and saying “change it to make it do xxxxxxx”

Website building

How about (instead of communism) aiming for an economy made up predominantly of co-operatives, like in the Basque country in Spain? The Mondragon federation of co-ops.

That way money is distruted quite evenly but you don’t have to get into the whole politics thing.