My parents legitimately believe ivermectin is a cure all and are stockpiling it. They take it for just about anything. They also believe plenty of other wacky things like viruses don’t exist and cancer is just a fungal infection.
My dad last year nearly lost his foot after it got infected. They let it fester for months and only treated it with like essential oils or some other pseudoscience. He eventually had to go to the emergency room and stay at the hospital and receive antibiotics. 🙄
And immediately saw the error in his ways? Absolutely not. These people get sick to the point of dying. Go to the emergency room and get healed through real medicine and the efforts of a dozen nurses and a doctor or two. Then they leave and brag to their friends and family “see told you I’d be fine” and never give credit to the REAL medicine that fixed the issue.
Many of my relatives are diehard MAGA. So, when Trump said not to wear masks or quarantine, my aunt and her husband and son went out of their way to basically spend every second they could at superspreader events. They were warned it was dangerous, not restricted in any way, but still felt the need to act out to validate political feelings.
Naturally, they all caught COVID in the early days. My uncle and cousin both passed, leaving my aunt as a devastated shell of a woman. When we would see each other at family dinners she would usually just sit with a far-off, forlorn look. Every once in a while she would tune in for a bit to spout some pro-Trump bullshit. I wanted to scream “He helped to kill your family!”
I decided to just stop spending time with these people before I said something I would regret.
But would you really regret screaming ‘he helped to kill your family’? I think it would be awesome … unless there’s a significant inheritance at stake.
My dad literally will not talk to me because I refused to say that ivermectin is a miracle cure. He’s angry at me for some study or article that he thinks I am obsessed with (I honestly have no idea what he’s talking about), and insists I retract my belief in it or we can’t have a relationship. Since I haven’t the first clue what he’s even on about, he made his choice…
Can’t wait for the next round of crackpot email forwards. Hopefully he sticks to his word and won’t contact me anymore.
Edit - the last time I spoke with him was at my step mom’s funeral, where she had just died of cancer, which they treated with….I’ll give you one guess.
We aren’t dealing with rational people.
refused to say that ivermectin is a miracle cure
What sucks the most is that ivermectin is a miracle cure! It just isn’t helpful again COVID or Hantavirus. The 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine was awarded (in part) for discovering ivermectin.
It’s what frustrates me the most about discussion with people like this. They’re willing to take a random drug, a drug that is fully backed by the medical community, but they’re not willing to take the drug actually recommended by the medical community.
I’m also not talking to your father on behalf of you
I have a similar experience with my own father after he started using TikTok and Instagram, though it’s not about ivermectin (spoiler: he thinks I’m a “commie”). I think old people are just not equipped to survive on the internet. It’s like they lack the instincts to known when they’re being scammed.
It gives me a tiny bit of hope for the future, because even though gen alpha aren’t exactly the brightest generation so far, they’re at least all fully attuned to the internet and (hopefully) better equipped to navigate its many perils.
I think old people are just not equipped to survive on the internet
I think its people in general
During lock down when people were at home and having to amuse themselves some made bread and did arts and crafts, whilst others ended up jumping off a cliff into conspiracy theories and right wing bollocks
One guy I know of suggested ivermectin and dog dewormers to treat my bf’s cancer because ‘cancer is caused by parasites… there’s plenty of information on the internet… you can do your own research…etc etc’
I used to think the average person was mostly decent and sensible, but not anymore
Idk what the hell happened to baby boomers. When I was growing up my parents (boomers) constantly reminded me you can’t believe everything you read online and that the “girl” I was chatting with on AIM could actually be some fat 40 year old pedo.
That wasn’t uncommon, that was the same experience all my buddies had and same thing was drilled into us at school.
Now, I’m seeing these folks treat memes on Facebook like it’s the gospel truth. Or some random mommy blog post with zero references as straight facts. It’s so maddening … What happened to these people?
Well at least they don’t have worm parasites.
It does work well for those things.
At least your parents are free from intestinal parasites
At least it’s not shungight. Viral medical trends are problematic when they get sold as cure calls, bad when it’s unfounded, worse when it’s half true. Poisons the well.
Yeah but not a worm in sight!
In the US, people don’t go to the doctor when they have a problem, they go as a last resort because they have to ask themselves how much it would cost.
18% of Americans haven’t ever seen a doctor and 40% of Americans haven’t seen one for 5 years.
A number of studies in low income communities in the south show that over 60% of people in those communities have intestinal parasites. That’s just the ones we know of.
One thing we know for sure is that ivermectin is about as magic as they say it is for parasites only. It’s a fantastic drug for that.
Over 60% of low income citizens would likely feel much better after getting their parasites removed from ivermectin. So what they are seeing, seems true. They could be sick from something else but get rid of a long standing comorbidity of a pariste infection, you bet they are feeling good. They just think that relief from the varied symptoms from parasite is actually something else cured.
This ivermectin religion has real miracles, it’s just not the ones they think they are. This belief is entirely created because Americans don’t have healthcare. That’s why this belief isn’t found elsewhere.
18% of Americans haven’t ever seen a doctor and 40% of Americans haven’t seen one for 5 years.
What the fuck? Have you a source for those numbers because they’re shocking
Hmm looks like some stats I pulled were from polls, and I fell victim to people paraphrasing that around 20% of rural people not having a primary care doctor in the last few years as “not even having seen a doctor” sorry about that.
40% of Americans haven’t seen a doctor in 5 years: https://studyfinds.org/americans-avoiding-the-doctor/ https://www.aarp.org/pri/topics/health/coverage-access/health-care-rural-america/?
But the limited stats on primary care and a lot of self reporting is very bad.
62% parasites infection: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.01.10.23284404v1.full
Typing in “southern united states rural primary care access” in Kagi has a lot of sad results.
You got the fucking receipts
Thank you! They are some wild numbers.
I haven’t seen a doctor in at least a decade and a half, when my parents took me to checkups as a child. I’m very lucky to be healthy, and am in the gym 3-5 days a week to keep my streak going as long as possible.
However, I’m calling bullshit on this:
A number of studies in low income communities in the south show that over 60% of people in those communities have intestinal parasites. That’s just the ones we know of.
That sounds insane to me. 60% is a motherfucking epidemic. Where’s the source for these studies???
It’s extremely common in Africa. My ex who was Zulu hated that you couldn’t get deworming here. Ignore the fact that in Ontario you aren’t getting worms. She brought her misconceptions that KZN is like here.
They could be sick from something else but get rid of a long standing comorbidity of a pariste infection, you bet they are feeling good. They just think that relief from the varied symptoms from parasite is actually something else cured.
Pretty much this, although it seems freeing the immune system from fighting the worm infection really does help it in fighting the Coronavirus infection: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted (Ctrl+F “The Synthesis”).
TL;DR: Studies showing a positive effect from Ivermectin on Covid came mostly from areas with high worm infection incidence, areas with low incidence showed no or smaller positive effect.
NB: Link is a selfhosted Substack, works better with JavaScript turned off.
We let them the first time too. If you want to eat horse paste who am I to stop you?
Actually by sheer volume they were taking all the horse paste away from the horses who needed it so rural supply stores had to lock down their supplies for only people who could prove they owned livestock.
As a Canadian who lives on a farm…
That is so so sad. America is doomed.
And remember, if you get sick with the hantavirus you can get over it quickly by taking 2x the LD50 of Tylenol. A couple of days and you won’t even feel sick. Be sure to tell all your conservative friends because the government likes to cover up this kind of information.
you can get over it quickly by taking 2x the LD50 of Tylenol.
I died at this.
Just drink bleach. Bleach kills all viruses and bacteria.
Bleach is mostly water, and we are mostly water. Therefore, we are bleach.
Here. Drink this, Murderface.
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Ah, it’s refreshing to see her back to saying crazy bullshit again.
Even with the best medical care, Hantavirus has a 20% fatality rate.
Let’s just hope that conservatives continue being so anti-vaccine… a few more pandemics with human-transmissible highly-fatal viruses and maybe we can get that socialist utopia that the right always cock-blocks us from achieving.
Does Lemmy have an equivalent to the Herman Cain Awards subreddit? We’re definitely gonna need one.
Colloquial silver works wonders when taken in high doses
Spoiler: it’ll turn your skin blue. These idiots should be labeled like smufs
colloidal?
In the streets we call it colloquial silver.
People that blue themselves pretty much did it on purpose. Afaik it’s not permanent.
Afaik it’s not permanent.
jonathan frakes telling you you’re wrong for 47 seconds
Argyria worsens and builds up as exposure to silver continues, and does not resolve once exposure stops because the silver atoms cannot be removed from the skin and other tissues.
This doctor was previously suspended for vaccine misinformation and now has a complaint against her by the texas medical board for numerous violations of professional conduct, including prescribing medication without ever meeting or examining a patient.
She filed a defamation lawsuit against the hospital which she lost. Ouch. Best of luck to her in keeping her certification, and in finding a new job! She should become trumps personal dr.
Ivermectin comes in apple flavor if y’all are worried about the taste.
/s
Ivermectin? I hardly knew her.
So much for her half-assed redemption arc.
Nothing says ‘we learned nothing’ like speedrunning the exact same miracle-cure discourse all over again.
They did learn something. How to profit off of fucking morons
Marjorie Taylor Greene is crazy to suggest Ivermectin because Pete Hegseth said germs aren’t real.
I really hope we don’t have a pandemic. Hentavirus has a 30% death rate. Being against masks, against vaccines, having fadigue of lockdowns would kill at of people
We won’t. This virus is only transmitted in close contact. None of the the science-based community I follow are worried, so I’m not worried.
Some variants like the Andes strain are developing the ability to be human-transmissible. It has been recorded jumping from one human host to the next in prior outbreaks. Once it evolves to be trivially-transmissible, all bets are off.
My comment addressed the Andes strain. Although it is human transmissable, it requires close contact. That’s why it’s currently not much of a concern.
Also, at the societal level, the high lethality of the virus makes it far less likely to be able to spread broadly.
“Prior transmissions of the strain did not have ‘close contact’.”
Featuring Prof. Joseph Allen, Professor of Exposure Assessment Science at Harvard University.
I’m more inclined to listen to experts in their field.
