• NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca
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    RIP to the Endangered Species Act

    No chance the US government will forego money for their broligarchs because of environmental laws.

    But if you really want to overwhelm someone’s property with an unkillable native plant, I’d have to put Virginia creeper forward as a candidate.

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    And you think these assholes won’t just raze that stuff without a care in the world? Because they will. After that they’ll be sued which will end with a small slap on the hand, combined with “oh you!” and that’s it

    It’ll relatively cost you more to buy that tree and plant it, than it’ll cost them to just ignore all that

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      Except no - starting elderberry shrubs is relatively easy. Not like scattering the berries on the ground, but sticking cuttings a couple inches into damp or wet ground in late fall works very well, with very good odds that they’ll be big enough to bear fruit in a year. It’s also very cheap if you have access to an existing tree.

      Apparently you missed this in the research I’m sure you did before commenting on the cost, and strangely the people upvoting you seem to be making the same mistake. Probably AI’s fault. (ooooh, he’s defending AI - nope, just criticizing misinformation)

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        They are definitely going to either remove the Endangered Species Act entirely or just slowly keep dropping species from the list as and when it becomes convenient honestly

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          They’re literally shooting people in the head in the street. If someone chained themselves to a tree to stop construction they’d just saw the person in half. Hasn’t been a single consequence yet

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        Still doesn’t make him wrong. They will ignore it and receive little to no consequence. I also don’t understand the hostility, infact it fits the “erm actually” meme so well I suspect trolling.

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        I think the word “relatively” in the previous comment is doing some heavy lifting.

        If you are going to spend a few hours of your limited free time to plant the shrubs, even if the materials and transportation are free to you, compare that with the relative cost of a small environmental fine to a trillion dollar company building a billion dollar data center.

        The people at the top might not even realize anything happened, if anything even does happen.

        • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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          I guess the important thing is to treat hypothetical outcomes as certainties and base debates on them.

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            That’s my favourite statement of the day. I’m lucky I’d put my drink down or there’d be a mess everywhere.

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    Lmao they don’t even care about humans. You think they’d care about beetles and berries??

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      Yeah I’m sure the guys on the ground would “accidentally” start the diggers before they were “aware” of the Beatles and berries.

  • Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    if today’s strategies are anything to go by : nothing is illegal if youre in charge

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    The law means nothing when lobbies of big corps can change it to their like, paying politicans as their spokespersons.

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    This is actually more likely to end with you in legal trouble yourself rather than stopping construction. Artificial planting is fairly easy to detect as it doesn’t follow natural population distribution, and won’t fall under the protection laws. If they can prove who did it, they can be charged with fraud

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    It’s pretty clear laws aren’t real anymore. Nothing will improve until these demons live in constant fear for their lives

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    even if that would be an obstacle, it would take mere hours for them to change the law and remove the protection altogether.

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      It does not take hours to change a law, but it is very quick to ignore a law and mow down a field. Now, whether the law will prevent them from doing that is a different thing. Someone would have to notice that they’re going to build in a protected area, notify the police and contact them officially to notify the error.

      At this point they may still ignore that, then you’d likely have to start a trial. If you’re lucky and you start the trial before they mow down the field, they’ll likely agree they made a mistake, pay for your lawyer and move to the field besides.

      There’s no need to change a law to fix something as simple as paying a couple lawyers.

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    Hmm, if that’s what’s in the picture we might have had a bunch of those things around the house when I was growing up and I might be a federal criminal…

    • barnacul@lemmy.world
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      Please regale us with all your tales of arson and sabotage. Surely you have just one or two to share with the group?

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        I don’t live in the banana republic.
        You want arson?
        Today is the second day of protests where I live against budget cuts for education.
        These are only the teachers, the most docile group of the population.
        Europeans know how to fight for their rights.

        So yes, I will continue to ridicule the pathetic non-attempts of your subservient, embarrassingly weak population of sheep.